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| Makinson probably has the edge of Swift in terms of finishing close to the line, but Swift is much better returning the ball and running in open play. Makinson, for all his plus points, is reasonably limited.
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| I think Makinson is the least of our problems.
Before his injury last season he was in fantastic form. Whilst i think no pre-season has hindered his start to this season, he'd still be one of the first names on the team sheet for me, and he'll only get better with games. A good finisher, very good defender and safe as houses. We have far bigger problems at the minute anyway.
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| Quote: Dux "I remember Bryan Henare running down Jason Robinson in a straight chase over about 70m. He was rubbish as well.'"
Jason Robinson would start to slow down after 60 metres he was all acceleration and change of direction. We on the odd occasion use to train with him doing hill sprints up Coppull Lane at the back of Swinley Labour Club a 200 metre steep climb, he use to beat us all by 50 metres on every rep.
Swift has a similar style, with quick feet to change direction.
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| I think that although Swift's finishing isn't as acrobatic as Makinson (particularly last season), he's much better at dancing around their players near the line to score a try. He's faster, and is probably the only player who can go the length of the field for us.
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| Quote: Twentyman "I think that although Swift's finishing isn't as acrobatic as Makinson (particularly last season), he's much better at dancing around their players near the line to score a try. He's faster, and is probably the only player who can go the length of the field for us.'"
Its probably Swift and Percival who ask more questions against the opposition defence because of there smart footwork and can break away any part of the field, Tommy Mak is more of a target player with kicks and taking difficult ball off his boot laces and can't fault his efforts. Our wingers don't get a lot of good service because our centres don't get a lot of space with our flat attack and "arm wrestle" pack.
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| Quote: Hawkandro "Makinson probably has the edge of Swift in terms of finishing close to the line, but Swift is much better returning the ball and running in open play. Makinson, for all his plus points, is reasonably limited.'"
I would replace reasonably with very.
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| I like(d) the idea of Rush as Manging Director (or whatever they call him). Had we gone for a none rugby man, I think we would have all complained that we were neglecting the on-the-field issues. However, the staffing process of our coaching team is an absolute joke. They've just given out jobs to anyone who needs one. Cunningham was in the top-job within 3 years of retiring - we're supposed to be one of the top 10 RL clubs in the world, but we've given one of the most important (if not THE most important) roles to a complete novice because he was a good player.
The bones of the squad (relative to the rest of the league) is a good one -
Makinson, Percival, Turner (centre), Swift, Amor, Sav, Walmsley, Thompson, Roby, Greenwood, Vea and LMS are a wonderful starting point for a squad to be built, but we have some real problems in key positions with no decent full back, a gutless wonder at scrum half and Wilkin doing some pretty bizarre things. Not to mention the baffling approach to our number 6 shirt and Burns/Fages.
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "I like(d) the idea of Rush as Manging Director (or whatever they call him). Had we gone for a none rugby man, I think we would have all complained that we were neglecting the on-the-field issues. However, the staffing process of our coaching team is an absolute joke. They've just given out jobs to anyone who needs one. Cunningham was in the top-job within 3 years of retiring - we're supposed to be one of the top 10 RL clubs in the world, but we've given one of the most important (if not THE most important) roles to a complete novice because he was a good player.
The bones of the squad (relative to the rest of the league) is a good one -
Makinson, Percival, Turner (centre), Swift, Amor, Sav, Walmsley, Thompson, Roby, Greenwood, Vea and LMS are a wonderful starting point for a squad to be built, but we have some real problems in key positions with no decent full back, a gutless wonder at scrum half and Wilkin doing some pretty bizarre things. Not to mention the baffling approach to our number 6 shirt and Burns/Fages.'"
I'm not at all convinced. Those players listed, particularly Makison, Turner, Swift, Greenwood, LMS and Vea are all bang average. How many of those would get in Warrington's side? How many would get in Leeds (2nd bottom remember ) side? Salford? Probably none of the ones I listed.
If we had our first choice 17 all season, I reckon we'd be in the fight for 4th place and 4th would be the best they could achieve. The club is rotten to the core at the moment, recruitment, coaching, player development and contract management are all massive failings for the club. KC needs to go, he is just insane, his press ramblings are comical and deluded. For McManus to give him an extension at the start of the year, he must be as well. I've no idea what Rush actually does, but never liked him from when he pretended to be coach. They can take Wello with them as well. It's a club that's gone from being success and entertainment focused to one that has 'being okay' as it's goal. We'd be delighted with 4th and no trophies and that isn't good enough. I've no problem with them trying and failing, they clearly aren't trying.
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| Quote: Saddened! "I'm not at all convinced. Those players listed, particularly Makison, Turner, Swift, Greenwood, LMS and Vea are all bang average. How many of those would get in Warrington's side? How many would get in Leeds (2nd bottom remember
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Wigan |
29 |
768 |
338 |
430 |
48 |
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Hull KR |
29 |
731 |
344 |
387 |
44 |
Warrington |
29 |
769 |
351 |
418 |
42 |
Leigh |
29 |
580 |
442 |
138 |
33 |
Salford |
28 |
556 |
561 |
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32 |
St.Helens |
28 |
618 |
411 |
207 |
30 |
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Catalans |
27 |
475 |
427 |
48 |
30 |
Leeds |
27 |
530 |
488 |
42 |
28 |
Huddersfield |
27 |
468 |
658 |
-190 |
20 |
Castleford |
27 |
425 |
735 |
-310 |
15 |
Hull FC |
27 |
328 |
894 |
-566 |
6 |
LondonB |
27 |
317 |
916 |
-599 |
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Wakefield |
27 |
1032 |
275 |
757 |
52 |
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Toulouse |
26 |
765 |
388 |
377 |
37 |
Bradford |
28 |
723 |
420 |
303 |
36 |
York |
29 |
695 |
501 |
194 |
32 |
Widnes |
27 |
561 |
502 |
59 |
29 |
Featherstone |
27 |
634 |
525 |
109 |
28 |
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Sheffield |
26 |
626 |
526 |
100 |
28 |
Doncaster |
26 |
498 |
619 |
-121 |
25 |
Halifax |
26 |
509 |
650 |
-141 |
22 |
Batley |
26 |
422 |
591 |
-169 |
22 |
Swinton |
28 |
484 |
676 |
-192 |
20 |
Barrow |
25 |
442 |
720 |
-278 |
19 |
Whitehaven |
25 |
437 |
826 |
-389 |
18 |
Dewsbury |
27 |
348 |
879 |
-531 |
4 |
Hunslet |
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6 |
10 |
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