Funny how that happens. Shenton looked really good at Cas, came to us and appeared ineffective. Manu looked terrific at Hull, came to us and so far appears largely ineffective.

I wonder what the common denominator is.

Moving to a really big club has that effect on some players. The Goons have had the same problem with players like Orr, Clinch (sp) , Chester etc . Some players never really settle in after moves or just cant handle the additional pressure at bigger clubs with greater expectations.

You never stop looking to have a pop at Saints do you? Saddened has comedic value , you just sound like a bitter stuck record at times.

It's a joke basically , I'm shocked that Brown cant see how useless he is there. Pretty much everyone else can see he is a dead end at 6. It's almost like he is desperately trying to fit him in the starting 13. I wonder if after 20 the plan is to stick him at 13 and bring the other fullback off the bench to play standoff?

Whatever the reason, hes not fulfilling the promise we all had for what was our marque signing. If I had the answer I'd be giving the team talk shortly, as it is I simply have a opinion on what I'm seeing.

Perhaps very good when we're on a positive roll but as I say ineffective for most of the time when we're not.

Later post might have a point about aspirations/expectations and different demands when playing for a bigger club, maybe thsts the problem.

And when you make comments like that you just sound like an idiot.

spot on as per fb , more accurate than the official site.

Speaking of the Saints facebook page, there are some absolute whoppers on there. It's embarrassing reading.

Maybe it just takes players more than 10 games to settle at a club. Maybe I am talking common sense. Maybe I have a bit more patience than some?

Hohaia's on for Flanagan after 5 minutes, must be an injury and 4-0 down.

10-nil down now.
We've got a scrum ner their line. Lets see if we can change things around.

Edit -Meli puts Percy in for our opening score.

What radio station is it on? First game I've missed this year

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