Why?

You are disillusioned with the team... when we are 3rd in the league.

But in reality we are in that BAD season now, yes we are 3rd but that isn,t an indicator how good we are but how bad the standard of superleague is.
I,m usually one of the few optimistic fans on here but even I have been compelled to join the "boring brigade".
Don,t know if you have watched Saints over a long period but we are not playing rugby the "saints way" often a difficult brand of rugby to defend against.

This season we are so lateral and predictable, its a 2 club superleague this season, we are just the best of a bad bunch. Yes we are spoilt by previous success but the standard has been slipping for the last 4 years. If you personally accept this then OK, other members don,t, and judging by all the fans sat around me last night the majority thought it was unacceptable as well.

I'm not disillusioned with the team. I'm thoroughly bored by the team.

Whilst we don't seem to be playing well at the moment, we were in a similar situation last year and look how that turned out in the playoffs...we seemed to coast last night not going all out at times but always knew game was in bag.

Silverwood didn't help, his constant whistle blowing for both teams stopped either really getting a roll on and that does contribute to it being such a poor game.

Even if we don't make it to OT this year, looks like a 3rd place finish in SL with 2/3 of the season being coached by an academy coach and a bloke with no prior coaching experience and I think that's a decent achievement...Especially when looking back to the bulls game at odsal when I said I would have settled for anywhere in top 6.

2012 has been a difficult year for us with moving to the new ground, not having a recognised coach etc and I think a better judgement on where we are going to be moving forward will be next year when NB comes in...just think we should try and stay behind the lads moving into the playoffs rather than slating them - after all I would take boring games all day long if it gets the job done and could bring the trophy home

You must admit it was such a dour game! when I was perhaps aged 9 I just went to see my own team win, but these days I also want to see some good rugby played. The atmosphere in the ground was flat, except about 18 minutes in the second half and that soon faded? The Happy Whistler did not help, but then again we gave away so many stupid penalties.

Saints are in the top 4 which was essential for you, so it was never going to be an easy game, but I just expected more! yes we were not the same team that played Warrington, but then you do not seem a Warrington or Wigan!

Now we will be soon down to the silly time of the season, the play-offs second bite of the cherry if you do not win etc, this should be The Sky TV Knockout Cup and nothing else, a team that performs all the season should be The Super League Champions and recognised and rewarded in that way, my opinion!

You are similar to many people who become fanatical supporters of a sport, or team, and quickly lose interest. The people who have watched Saints all their lives, or any other team for tht matter, accept the ups and downs as part of life, and move on. We realise that you cannot always be the best, but enjoy the times when we are. We will still be Saints supporters for the rest of our lives. Most of the evengelical people won't. Its part of life.

It was dour, but again we just have to put up with that for this season. We are stuck with Royce's (or Rush's) style of play until Nathan comes in. I'm personally happy to accept playing badly and finishing in a respectable position for now, given that this has been our worst season for some time.

Nah not having that.
You dont have to be the best to play entertaining rugby. You need a coach that wants to play it and that can coach It. We have players In that team to play the game the way It should be played,not like last nights depressing offering.
I might add that last night wasnt a one off either.

It looks like you wont be getting both of your wishes for next week - if Wakefield are still in with a shout of the top 8 after this weeks games - then they play Salford next friday - and they will be on TV and not Wigan v Saints.
Straight choice pay to see your team or support another......

Better practice your chants "Wakey, Wakey, Wakey"

Which we don't have unfortunately, because our previous coach had to be sacked when we were in freefall and we have two rookies at the helm as a result. Incidentally, two rookies that look like steering us to a table finish that was utterly unrealistic when they took over and doing so without a proper half back.



Whilst I agree entirely that we are not serving up entertaining stuff, there have been many, many years and teams that haven't shown anything like the commitment this lot show. They are not playing well, we don't have an all star squad, but what we do have is players who are committed to the team and will give their all to try to get us to OT (again) against the odds.

Until the effort falls away, I will support them 100%. Effort and pride in the shirt will outweigh a lack of champagne rugby because I can see the reasons why it isn't there (both in terms of personnel in key positions and inexeprienced coaching staff) and I've seen plenty of Saints teams in the past who rank waaaaaaaaay below this group in terms of heart.

I went to last night's game completely down on RL, knowing it would be dreadful.

My tweet before the game "I almost forget Saints are playing these days when it comes to most Friday nights. Hope it's a decent game tonight but doubt it."

My tweet after the game "I didn't think Saints could be more horrendous to watch...And then I saw that tonight! Awful game and London were worse."

I am completely bored watching Saints and alot of other RL games this year. I've had a season ticket since 1996 and been going since 1993 and I've never been as bored as this season. Last season was also pretty dreadful and I'm hoping next year with a better coach we'll get ourselves organised and throw some more caution to the wind playing some good rugby. On paper, 30-0 is a great result but having been there to see it I got no enjoyment out of it. All our tries were barge over tries within their 10 or 20m line and London offered nothing! The most exciting moment for me was Meli throwing a dummy to himself. At least at the Cas game last time the two young kids Makinson and Swift showed some excitement with their length of the field efforts (a try and no try). Did Makinson even get a pass last night? What we churn out is dreadful and I see us making no impact in the Play Offs especially with the ball in hand.

In previous years we've always had a character in the team (or coaching staff) to excite us either with their personality or their style of play - James Graham, Paul Sculthorpe, Sean Long, Jamie Lyon, Ian Millward, Bobbie Goulding, Tommy Martyn, Paul Newlove etc etc. In this current team I don't see one player that genuinely excites me. Our team is full of grafters but no real excitement. I was always brought up on a Saints team, whilst not necessarily being the best, were always the ones who threw the ball about and lit up the league with entertaining rugby. Up until the last few years, we were exactly that, but especially the last 2 seasons, we've been awful to watch.

Whilst it's not the worst season in terms of results it's definitely the most boring I've seen and I know Warrington fans who feel the same about the league campaign itself.

Rush at the start of his tenure talked about playing the Saints way,then played safety first stuff.
Effort and commitment for me Is a given. Champagne rugby,Ill settle for mildly entertaining. I really would.
Weve defended well against teams that attack like we do,next week might be a different matter.
If I remember,the last time we played em there were screams on here and RedVee about the distinct lack of commitment and pride In the shirt.