Lance was lucky to get his 8 mins as the back on the bench more often than not don't even get on.

The are a lot of things Royce does which I find strange.

Unless you have the permision of the club then no you cant,even if a player is coming off contract there is a deadline prior to wich they can not be talked to.

On the subjects of leadership and Wheeler I found his midweek comments [ivis a vis[/i James Graham very interesting. Clearly he - and by implication several other players - were not entirely satisfied with Jammer's approach to leadership. Given Saints' complete lack of such last night I wonder whether he now thinks the devil he did know was better than the one he's enjoying now.

Where we're the comments?

What did he say?

That Graham could be too demanding and quick to assert blame. My interpretation was he is not too upset by Jammer's departure (others too, by implication).

Interesting indeed! Just a pity we have a Jammer shaped hole the size of Jupiter in the middle of the park at the moment.

I don't think it is anything serious. Just a difference of opinion about how a leader should lead. I mean, it's not like we haven't seen evidence in the past of Graham bawling out someone behind the sticks after a try has been conceded.

The Angry Man.

I was at Ade's forum, if that's where you were.

Ah. You noticed it too then! I just thought it was me seeing flaming red hair and a face to match exactly where a committed and enthusiastic defender should be.

i really don't see what he offers.

Jammer is a hot head and I've seen him lose his rag which resulted in him cracking a bone in his hand.

Jammer and wilkin had regular fall outs but always made up and didbt come to blows.

IMO jammer isn't a good captain and has no thought to how certain players react. Some need a arm around them and some need a kick up the bum but jammer preferred the later