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| Quote: karetaker "think the point is being missed here,never mind the westwood try,the point is that the technology and smith was a failure.why you ppl are refering to other decisions is beyond me,'"
Because no Wire fan can justifiably be on here having a go about the James Roby non-try when in their match against Hull FC there was the Ben Westwood non-try. All square. We would still be ahead of you in points difference after the two matches if both the non-tries had not been given (and neither of them should have been). Suck it up.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Because no Wire fan can justifiably be on here having a go about the James Roby non-try when in their match against Hull FC there was the Ben Westwood non-try. All square. We would still be ahead of you in points difference after the two matches if both the non-tries had not been given (and neither of them should have been). Suck it up.'"
The two incidents are completely different, but Smith made a mess on both of them. He should have referred the Westwood try, and he should have disallowed the Roby one. Can you imagine the fuss if he was VR for the Grand Final and gave a VR decision like last night at a crucial point? It was a really poor decision.
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| Quote: just_jillie "Thought the aussies, sorry welsh, did a lot of holding down tonight.
Well done Saints!'"
Am I reading this right? A Quins fans calling Crusaders for having a team full of Aussies?? Only started watching Quins this season did you luv?
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| Quote: Teessidewire "The two incidents are completely different, but Smith made a mess on both of them. He should have referred the Westwood try, and he should have disallowed the Roby one. Can you imagine the fuss if he was VR for the Grand Final and gave a VR decision like last night at a crucial point? It was a really poor decision.'"
A VR has already done that to an extent in our GF with Leeds.
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| The point is (and the problem with a lot of Saints fans)
Ask a Wire fan should Westwood's be given they would say "no"
Ask some Saints fans should Roby's be given and they say "yes" and start making up rules.
He lost control of the ball after the tackle dragged it forawrd and lost it again and then got pressure on it on the line.
The simple facts are:
*Smith made two mistakes in one weekend and so should be sacked
*Westwood's apparently looked okay in normal time. (No need for a Video ref)
*Roby's looked like a massacre and so went to the VR. It looked worse and should no way have been given, it was. There is the problem.
And FFS RIGSBY, can you make a post w/o referring to the hoodoo. Nothing worse than being boring.
Saints you don't want to be pitied do you? It sounds like that is what you are going for. Smith took pity on you and so gave it? I don't believe that.
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| Are people still talking about this?
Talk about being OTT. It didn't make that much difference.
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| ok, lets all calm down, yes it probably wasnt a try, just like we won the league in 96 with apoolo's questionable try at london and the grand final when jointy certanly didnt take a voluntary tackle, lets move on
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| Quote: 1905 "Nobody has answered the question yet. I would like to know if anyone can explain to me why that was given, or are the genuine Saints fans on here as stunned as the rest of us?
I thought it was a try! He loses the ball backwards then gains control before grounding!
The ruling I couldnt get my head round was the picking up and driving back in the tackle thought that had been outlawed!
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| Quote: Ian Roberts Closet "I thought it was a try! He loses the ball backwards then gains control before grounding!
The ruling I couldnt get my head round was the picking up and driving back in the tackle thought that had been outlawed!'"
I believe the referee saw it that the players feet never left the ground so was not picked up, and te player was also not n the floor so was not dragged. Was merely bundled into touch.
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| Amazed it was given, I didnt celebrate when he slugn it down live, I didnt start getting excited as the replays were shown, but I did get giddy and all happy and warm when it was given, never had Ian Smith give us a bean in the past. Still dont grasp how he gave it ?
Smith thought it hit the whiteline JUST, so he gave it.
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| Quote: Supreme Sydney2002 "Amazed it was given, I didnt celebrate when he slugn it down live, I didnt start getting excited as the replays were shown, but I did get giddy and all happy and warm when it was given, never had Ian Smith give us a bean in the past. Still dont grasp how he gave it ?
Smith thought it hit the whiteline JUST, so he gave it.'"
Your face was a fricken picture
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| I think it was given because he had second thoughts about not giving the one by Magennis (I think it was). Although they'd never admit it I'm sure ref's do try to put (perceived) wrong decisions right by giving one the other way.
Anyway on a slightly different point I think ref's all look for reasons to give tries far too much these days and the VR has made that worse. We frequently see "tries" where a hand brushes the ball, something that anywhere else on the field would be considered a blatant knock on but behind the line it's a try.
I'm all in favour of the VR at every game not just TV games, but they've got to do the job right.
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| Quote: Harry Pinner "I think it was given because he had second thoughts about not giving the one by Magennis (I think it was).'"
Think it was Jake Emmitt your reffering to?
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