Unless Cas let him

hes 3 years older though than Gleeson was, also I dont think hes good enough for Saints

your basing that on the wakey version of ryan atkins, where he was appalling in defence, couldn't tackle to save his life etc.

and to be honest as a wire fan, i thought this as well when we announced we'd signed him.

HOWEVER

the difference between that ryan atkins and the one we've got is ridiculous, he's like a different player and from the start of the season has been defending like a mofo and tackling hard as well for a 3/4.

He's a totally different players, both him and bridge have been up there with the form centres in the league this year.

I thought I had posted on this thread yesterday but it doesn't appear anywhere? Anyway, what I would have posted is similar to the above, give me Atkins over Shenton any day. Good all-round player.

He's freakishly strong for his size according to an SL forward I know, I made a point of watching him in the Hull KR game recently and he was completely dominant in the collision, his speed from being tackled to playing the ball is immense.

Was told the exact same thing by someone who works at Cas. Westerman is the major culprit apparently. Along with Chase.

I was speaking to a former Saints player a few weeks ago who when i mentioned Westerman as a very talented player agreed but added that his attitude stank. Having talent isnt enough , to make it at the top you need to put in the hard work too and sadly it seems Westerman doesnt do that.

And that is one of the reasons why Ainscough and Tuson were recalled to Wigan from their loan spell.

everybody in cas knows that the drinking culture is bad and hopefully the club are addressing this by breaking the culprits up,sherwin has gone, sargant off at the end of the year and westerman has been offered to hull in a cash plus player swap which will help.we just need to keep chase away from leo latu at wakey and get mcgoldrick on the first plane back to oz and weve cracked the drunk team.

Yep, those 2 leaving would send the pubs in Cas bust.

Tuson & Ainscough were recalled for that reason, Cooper commented on it when he went back to Warrington.

That's fair enough, you see more of him than me, if he's polished up his positional defence then that will really put him in contention for an england place.

Shenton will be a fantastic signing for us,i can't wait to see him in our side next season,if true of course

Does anybody know when deals like this can be announced or when we might know one way or another?

Thanks

15th July rings a bell

Is the 15th July not a Challenge Cup deadline?

I thought it was September, but clubs can announce a signing if the club they are signing the player from agrees.

Or if you are Warrington and thus above regulations, you can announce deals in May.