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| I think my 17 would be:
1. Wellens
2. Gardner
3. Gidley
4. Soliola
5. Meli
6. Wheeler
7. Eastmond
8. Hargreaves
9. Cunningham
10. Graham
11. Puletua
12. Wilkin
13. Flannery
14. Roby
15. Fozzard
16. Clough
17. Fa'asavalu
Pryce needs a spell on the sideline to realise that he is supposed to be a Rugby League player. Wheeler cannot do any worse than Pryce did from July onwards. Until he decides he wants to play he shouldn't be in the 17, and even then i'd only consider him for the bench.
Moore/Roby could be on the bench or Flanno could miss out. I don't like the idea of three hookers in a 17 squad though.
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| Quote: Saddened! "What? He was pretty good last season? Sure he didn't do the damage he did running wider and less often in the second row, but when asked he rolled his sleeves up and did the hard work very well IMO.'"
He was pretty good last season, but why pick him at prop when everybody recognises he is more dangerous at in the back row???
If needs must because of injuries then so be it, but when we have a fully fit squad to choose from he's got to be the automatic choice for 2nd row.
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| Quote: C-Stander "He was pretty good last season, but why pick him at prop when everybody recognises he is more dangerous at in the back row???
If needs must because of injuries then so be it, but when we have a fully fit squad to choose from he's got to be the automatic choice for 2nd row.'"
I'm sure that will be the case. Foz and Carve.... Graham will be our props with Maurie and Hargreaves.
We're still one light.
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| Quote: ST_CONROY "I think my 17 would be
I am inclined to agree but I think if the Leon thing was going to happen it should have happened last season before the play offs (it might have had we had cover at 6). Potter won't do that from the start of a new season as he won't rely on last years form and unless he has grown a huge set of cojones in 3 months its a none starter. That said if Leon bums around and doesn't have renewed intensity about him in pre-season it certainly wouldn't hurt us/Potter or Leon to have him on the bench a time or two kick him out of the comfort zone. Wheeler should be given another couple of games at 6 as well as first team exposure at centre if we want him to kick on in 2010.
I would love Sia to see at centre but am a bit worried by what i saw in the 4 nations in that i think Potter will see him as another second row. Hopefully he won't though with his size and strength & importantly some good service he would be near impossible to stop 10m out against a lot of teams and in defence the opposition would certainly be wary about whats coming to tackle them.
Like you i've no idea on the 3 hookers, its good to have cover in the squad but unless Roby steps in to try LF there is no point all 3 in a match day 17, but if Roby does play 13 it leaves us with a plethora of second rowers for 2 spots with Clough, Wilkin, Flannery, Puletua & Soliola, Dixon, Ashurst.
On top of that I would certainly like to see more of Lomax in the first team, hopefully a physically improved Frodsham and maybe some of this Magennis chap everyone seems to rave about!
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| At the start of the season:
Wellens
Gardner
Gidley
Soliola
Meli
Pryce
Eastmond
Fozzard
Cunningham
Graham
Puletua
Wilkin
Flannery
Roby
Fa'asavalu
Clough
Moore
By end of season:
Wellens
Foster
Gidley
Soliola
Meli
Wheeler
Eastmond
Fozzard
Cunningham
Graham
Puletua
Wilkin
Roby
Moore
Clough
Fa'asavalu
Pryce
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| We're a bit like GB. Pack looks ok but backs look weak. Only EAstmond and Pryce have any attacking pace
Pryce at 1 could be a great move for us - would allow him to drift in and out.
I would stick Wello in the back row or 13 and allow him to influence from there
6? Well, Id' go for Roby - he has the all round potential to do it.
Pryce
Gardener
Gids
Soliola
Meli
Roby
Kyle
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| Quote: Harborne Saint "We're a bit like GB. Pack looks ok but backs look weak. Only EAstmond and Pryce have any attacking pace
Pryce at 1 could be a great move for us - would allow him to drift in and out.
I would stick Wello in the back row or 13 and allow him to influence from there
6? Well, Id' go for Roby - he has the all round potential to do it.
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Obviously you're entitled to your opinion but that is ridiculous. Your moving 5 or 6 players to brand new positions.
Leon to FB
Wello to LF
Roby to 6
Flannery to ??
?? to take Roby's spot on the bench
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Is Leon a better FB than Wellens? No
Is Wello a better LF than Flannery? No
Is Roby a better 6 than Pryce? No
Does Roby have more potential at 6 than Wheeler? No
Not to mention the abundance of backrowers that would leave us with putting Leon at FB.
Wellens
Clough
Wilkin
Flannery
Puletua
Dixon
Ashurst
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| Wello is still our best fullback but is defo getting near the point that we need to be looking for a new fullback.
IMO this will prob be his last season at fullback as he's just getting to slow which is a shame as he's been top player and still youngish.
I think leon is the ideal man to take over wello as he has everything needed to be top class fullback. With leon being fullback he wouldn't be shut out of the game by teams like he was last year as he'd have more room and would drift in and out of the game which would suite him.
If we could bring a good ball playing 6 in or if wheeler steps up to the mark I'm pretty sure our attack would improve a hell of a lot.
I'd start 2010 with wello at fullback and just see how it goes.
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| From a neitral point of view (if you're interested), I think this would be your strongest team next year:
Wellens
Lomax
Gidley
Pryce
Meli
Wheeler
Eastmond
Graham
Cunningham
Fozzard
Soliola
Wilkin
Flannery
Puletua
Roby
Faasavalu (sp?)
Clough
That bench has the potential to rip any team apart imo. Forwards are obviously your strong point, but with the youngsters you have cmoing through you can expect big things. I think to be successful you'll have to put Pryce at 6 for some games as a whole season with 2 inexperienced halves could be a bad move. Still can't see you finishing outside top 2.
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| Wellens
Gardner
Gidley
Soliola
Meli
Pryce
Eastmond
Graham
Cunningham
Fozzard
Flannery
Puletua
Wilkin
AND
Lomax
Armstrong
Wheeler
Dean
Foster
Moore
Ellis
Fasaavalu
Roby
Hargreaves
Ashurst
Dixon
Clough
No place for Magennis or Emmit Im afraid.
How ever will we cope?
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For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
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| Any major injuries to the first team 17 and I think Saints will struggle.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Any major injuries to the first team 17 and I think Saints will struggle.'"
No major signings from Wigan and you'll struggle.
Leeds again easily imo.
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For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
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| Quote: The Wizard "No major signings from Wigan and you'll struggle.
Leeds again easily imo.'"
Here was my post on the Wigan board
rlhttps://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?t
And with all due respect Saints can't get near that strength in depth.
And I doubt any other team in Superleague can either.
1) Cameron Phelps---------- Josh Vievers
2) Amos Roberts--------------Sean Ainscough
3) Martin Gleeson-------------Darrell Goulding
4) George Carmont-----------Ian Thornley
5) Pat Richards----------------Stefan Marsh
6) Sam Tomkins---------------Karl Pryce
7) Thomas Leuluai-------------Paul Deacon
8- Paul Prescott----------------Stuart Fielden
9) Micky McIlorum-------------Mark Riddell
10 Feka Paleaaesina-----------Andy Coley
11) Lee Mossup-----------------Harrison Hansen
12) Phil Bailey-------------------Joel Tomkins
13) Liam Farrell ----------------Sean O'Loughlin
14 Joe Mellor--------------------Sam Gee
15 Eamon O'Carroll------------ Ben Davies
16 Neil Holland------------------Chris Tuson
17 Stuart Howarth--------------Josh Charnley
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "
we agree on many things, but come on, most of these names are unknowns
1) Cameron Phelps---------- Josh Vievers untried at SL
2) Amos Roberts--------------Sean Ainscough makes Meli look safe
3) Martin Gleeson-------------Darrell Goulding not SL level
4) George Carmont-----------Ian Thornleywho?
5) Pat Richards----------------Stefan Marshwho?
6) Sam Tomkins---------------Karl Prycenot a sl 6
7) Thomas Leuluai-------------Paul Deacon
8- Paul Prescott----------------Stuart Fielden
9) Micky McIlorum-------------Mark Riddell
10 Feka Paleaaesina-----------Andy Coley
11) Lee Mossup-----------------Harrison Hansen
12) Phil Bailey-------------------Joel Tomkins
13) Liam Farrell ----------------Sean O'Loughlin
14 Joe Mellor--------------------Sam Gee
15 Eamon O'Carroll------------ Ben Davies
16 Neil Holland------------------Chris Tuson
17 Stuart Howarth--------------Josh Charnley'"
i dont know any of of the 14 -17. The pack i will give you is ok in cover but as for the rest its not that great
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Here was my post on the Wigan board
rlhttps://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?t
And with all due respect Saints can't get near that strength in depth.
And I doubt any other team in Superleague can either.
snip'"
[iWe only have 33 in the squad[/i
Wellens----Lomax
Meli----Armstrong
Gidley----Bradbury
Wheeler----Dean
Gardner----Foster
Pryce----Gaskell
Eastmond----Ellis
Graham----Hargreaves
Cunningham----Moore
Fozzard----Emmitt
Wilkin----Ashurst
Soliola----Dixon
Flannery----McGenniss
Roby---Johnson
Faasavalu----Frodsham
Puletua----Yates
Clough
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