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| Quote Harry Pinner="Harry Pinner"Contributing what? Sick notes?
Does anyone have any stats on the %age of games Wheeler has been fit for since he broke into the first team?'"
He's made 41 appearances plus 11 as sub since he made his debut in 2008.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"He's made 41 appearances plus 11 as sub since he made his debut in 2008.'"
Jesus.
If he'd have stayed fit, he'd have been in the squad every week since the 2011 season
So that's 3 seasons of, what, 27 league games + say 6 games in play off and cup rugby = 99
Before that, if you say he'd have feature in an average of 1 in 3 games, then that's another 33 games.
So out of 134 games, he's featured in 41, which is 30%.
30% over 6 years (6 years we've been trying to get him fit).
Talk about flogging a dead horse. I longed for him to finally break his curse, but I gave up a while ago.
Perhaps if we release him he'll get his in gear. Some say that he does nothing to help his condition.
**EDIT** [url=http://www.saints.org.uk/home/player.phpThe Saints Heritage Site[/url Has him at 54 official matches, scoring an impressive 19 tries.
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| I think the fact that the votes have sicknote ahead of Lance shows how much quality people see in Lance.
ie very little. I can name 2 games where he has had an input, apart from that he has shuffled the ball and cut out the space for his centres.
I don't buy the he needs a better 7 arguement either, as others have done better with less around them. The only thing I think a better 7 will do, is hide the fact he is not a great 6.
I was going to give the benefit of the doubt after the Hull KR game as hope springs eternal for me, but after literally watching him stop with the ball several times in the Leeds game, it was obvious 6 is beyond him.
He may be a big price tag but for Saints substitute 9 is his primary role for me.
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| Quote bewareshadows="bewareshadows"I think the fact that the votes have sicknote ahead of Lance shows how much quality people see in Lance.
ie very little. I can name 2 games where he has had an input, apart from that he has shuffled the ball and cut out the space for his centres.
I don't buy the he needs a better 7 arguement either, as others have done better with less around them. The only thing I think a better 7 will do, is hide the fact he is not a great 6.
I was going to give the benefit of the doubt after the Hull KR game as hope springs eternal for me, but after literally watching him stop with the ball several times in the Leeds game, it was obvious 6 is beyond him.
He may be a big price tag but for Saints substitute 9 is his primary role for me.'"
When we go wide, we need to do it well and get the ball to our dangermen (Manu and Lomax) quickly. Lance just slows everything down.
I was never a big, nor fast player, but I could do things right (at my level). Other guys would come and go that should have been better than me, but for their inability to do core functions, such as a simple draw and pass.
not only are hohaia's hand too slow, but he exaggerates this by running sideways, which makes the defence's job even easier. Terrible player.
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| Quote Offside Monkey="Offside Monkey"When we go wide, we need to do it well and get the ball to our dangermen (Manu and Lomax) quickly. Lance just slows everything down.
I was never a big, nor fast player, but I could do things right (at my level). Other guys would come and go that should have been better than me, but for their inability to do core functions, such as a simple draw and pass.
not only are hohaia's hand too slow, but he exaggerates this by running sideways, which makes the defence's job even easier. Terrible player.'"
Well said.
I really am struggling to understand how he has picked up 27% of votes so far. It shows the lack of rugby intelligence that some have on here.
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| Quote Albion="Albion"Well said.
I really am struggling to understand how he has picked up 27% of votes so far. It shows the lack of rugby intelligence that some have on here.'"
Not as bad as Wheeler getting 36%. Just who in the hell voted for him? I wouldn't trust him to pass me the salt.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Not as bad as Wheeler getting 36%. Just who in the hell voted for him? I wouldn't trust him to pass me the salt.'"
Me.
Just to p1$$ on your chips as opposed to salting them.
I was going to vote for your mate Wello, but even I'm not that crazy.
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| Quote saint at wire="saint at wire"Me.
Just to p1$$ on your chips as opposed to salting them.
I was going to vote for your mate Wello, but even I'm not that crazy.'"
Some idiot voted for wello and I've got a good idea who.
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| This list just shows the gaping hole we have in our squad at 6. our best options there are either the original gingerbread man, a truely terrible player in that position who offers nothing at all, a second row or a kid who's probably a year off being ready for superleague
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| A 6 may pop up during the World Cup...
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| Quote Albion="Albion"A 6 may pop up during the World Cup...'"
That's my last bit of hope, that the club have specifically left room on the cap/quota on the off chance that some unknown gem pops up during the tournament.
Knowing Saints, that won't be the case, but I'm still hoping!
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| I think quite a few teams will pick up players from the World Cup from lesser nations who shine. I doubt we'll be one of them though.
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