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| Quote: SomersetSaint "Ancient Chinese proverb
I'd prefer that to the current, tbh.
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| Quote: BrisbaneRhino "Maybe Wilkin has shown leadership qualities in spades by choosing not to put himself in the way of Simmons' gameplan? A sort of 'work to rule' to show the gameplan is flawed, in the hope that Simmons changed it/got dumped? If the senior players had lost confidence in Simmons, why would you expect them to try to bale him out?'"
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[quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23997.jpg |
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Wilkin is pretty terrible all he cares about is media i used to think he was half decent till 3 years ago now all he cares about is how he comes across
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| Quote: king warrior "Wilkin is pretty terrible all he cares about is media i used to think he was half decent till 3 years ago now all he cares about is how he comes across'"
I'd hate to see your opinion on Harrison Hansen and Sean O'Loughlin then. Terrible Jon Wilkin beats them both hands down this season at Metres made, Carries, Tackles, Tackle busts, Offloads, Clean breaks, Marker tackles, penalty rate.....you know, all the things you'd want from a back rower. |
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Nothing wrong with the coaching.'"
Sorry, what is Royce doing this Sunday? I can't quite remember. |
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| Quote: Sthelens RLFC "Sorry, what is Royce doing this Sunday? I can't quite remember.'"
That doesn't mean there was anything wrong with his coaching. Purtill went too. McManus has fired a coach before. Was he poor too? He was very successful.
You still haven't addressed my point though. Wilkin was superb last season. Last season Saints were coached by Royce. Royce also coached Saints for the first seven rounds this season. So therefore the problem with Wilkin's performance cannot be the coach. |
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| Quote: SaintsFan "That doesn't mean there was anything wrong with his coaching. Purtill went too. McManus has fired a coach before. Was he poor too? He was very successful.
You still haven't addressed my point though. Wilkin was superb last season. Last season Saints were coached by Royce. Royce also coached Saints for the first seven rounds this season. So therefore the problem with Wilkin's performance cannot be the coach.'"
So there's no chance Royce asked Wilkin to play a slightly different role this season and allow our slightly more experienced half backs to show what they could do? If he's playing a typical back row role, staistically, he's doing it better than Sean O'Loughlin. What do you think about that?
Purtill was an assistant coach. He probably did his job very well but I've absolutely no idea on that. No matter how well he did his job, he didn't pick the team or tell the players how to play, so just as with your Lance Hohaia statistic, it has absolutely no relevance to Jon Wilkin. |
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| Quote: Sthelens RLFC "So there's no chance Royce asked Wilkin to play a slightly different role this season and allow our slightly more experienced half backs to show what they could do? '"
Sure there's a chance. Just as there's a chance Royce told Wilkin to play standing on his head. |
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| Quote: SaintsFan "You still haven't addressed my point though. Wilkin was superb last season. Last season Saints were coached by Royce. Royce also coached Saints for the first seven rounds this season. So therefore the problem with Wilkin's performance cannot be the coach.'" Maybe his performaces have declined as all the good influence left over from Mick Potter have gradually worn off?  |
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| Quote: Mugwump "Sure there's a chance. Just as there's a chance Royce told Wilkin to play standing on his head.'"
Deary me. Is this because your "completely anonymous" argument has been shot to pieces? Or that you're still in cloud cuckoo land that one good game in the halves against Leeds 5 years ago makes him the next Wally Lewis?
All joking aside, you say that Wilkin is capable of a good showing in the halves due to a great game he played away at Leeds. Lomax produced a masterclass at scrum half at Leeds last season, yet isn't a scrum half in the memory of man.
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| Quote: Sthelens RLFC "Deary me. Is this because your "completely anonymous" argument has been shot to pieces? Or that you're still in cloud cuckoo land that one good game in the halves against Leeds 5 years ago makes him the next Wally Lewis?
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