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| Quote: bewareshadows "What is it with Walmsley and the play the ball.
He's like Achilles. A great big man mountain with a dodgy little chink in his Armour.'"
Oooh, I do like a classical reference. Well played, sir.
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| An absolutely outstanding display in all departments. Incisive in attack, brutal in defence and an inspirational half back with the full range of organisational and kicking skills. In truth the scoreline should've been even better but no complaints from me! Luke Walsh ran the show and will be a huge player for us. Great to see Wheeler perform so well too, here's hoping both stay fit!!
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| Quote: The Chair Maker "Personally thought we were quite patchy in our performance.
Wire were dire.
I think a more structured team like Wigan or Huddersfield would have got upto 50 or 60 points against them.
Saints seemed to spend part of the match show boating, trying to entertain rather than trying to win. End result is you make daft mistakes.
As predicted our pack looked strong, and to think we had players like Masoe, and Clough sitting it out.
Our main weakness seemed to be on the Percival, Swift side. It got stretched a few times.
I think when fit we will continue with Amor and Walmsley starting, then after 15-20 mins, Lafranchi will come on the pitch for Walmsley, then on the 30 min mark Masoe will replace Amor.
I also think Hohoia should be on the bench ahead of Wellens, who seemed to just be making up the numbers when he came on. Lance would add an injection of pace when teams are tiring.'"
Percival and swift wing started poorly in defence but got it together .
Walmesley for me did far too many minutes, this I assume will be sorted with Mosae back in the squad but Walmesley looked shattered at points
Walsh was everything I've dreamed he would be
Directed us from start to finish, can lick from anywhere and kick goals from either touchline, my 50-1 bet on him as MOS looks safe!
Wheeler lasted a game and looked the part
Makinson and turner partnership looked like they'd been at it for years . That pass from turner was simply sublime.
Sia , LMS, Amor, Walmesley were immense.
I dong need to mention Lomax or Roby as they were just they're usual selves!!!
I think that just about covers it!!
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| Just glad to see that the team element has returned. Past few years has been like a bunch of strangers turning up and giving it a go.
Impressed and positives outweigh the negatives. Individual players made mistake but the team covered for them and thats he pleasing thing.
Onwards and upwards!
WE ARE TOP OF THE LEAGUE!!
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| Quote: Ande "WE ARE TOP OF THE LEAGUE!!'"
and if thats ot entertaining enough, look at the bottom of the league...
call end of season now, wire and wigan relegated!
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| Quote: Roy Haggerty "Oooh, I do like a classical reference. Well played, sir.'"
Except I'm not sure he was feted for his 'man mountain'ess and of course, he wasn't protected by Armour.....but hey
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| Whilst they obvisouly missed Briers, I'm not convinced he would have saved the day from them, their pack took too much of a pounding.
Our aggression and line speed in defence was superb throughout most of the game.
For me we didn't link out wide as often as perhaps we could, but the power up front won us through. The fact Jones came on early and stayed on helped make up for the fact that we only took 1 prop on the bench, although I'm still not convinced by Wello being included.
Opening fixtures can be funny - no matter how much training and friendlies you do, it never quite prepares you for a full blooded match. It could be that Saints have just got into gear quickly and wire will take a week or so.
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| When I saw how weak/inexperienced the Wire bench was I fancied Saints strongly. Saints used their subs very well knowing what Wire had on the bench (four changes in the first 20 minutes)
If Wire had Wood, Monaghan, Harrison and Currie on the bench then I think it would have been a much closer game.
Percival is getting a bit of stick for that first try, but I think you'll find Wheeler is too far infield and there is no covering second rower. I'm not sure Percival could have done much else.
I wonder if Brown will comment on the high tackles. The Wilkin one probably came off the shoulder, Turner was beaten by the step, but Soliolas was a bad tackle.
It'll be interesting to see what the review panel come up with.
Just on the first point Tony Smith has a lot to answer for. He has hardly given his young players any game time over the last couple of years.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "When I saw how weak/inexperienced the Wire bench was I fancied Saints strongly. Saints used their subs very well knowing what Wire had on the bench (four changes in the first 20 minutes)
If Wire had Wood, Monaghan, Harrison and Currie on the bench then I think it would have been a much closer game.
Percival is getting a bit of stick for that first try, but I think you'll find Wheeler is too far infield and there is no covering second rower. I'm not sure Percival could have done much else.
I wonder if Brown will comment on the high tackles.
The review panel set the standard last week with Matty Bowen. Sia has a good record, he's not a dirty player just like Matty Bowen.
The is a case that bowens was deliberate as he actually jumps up with the swinging arm. Sia went in hard and caught him.
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| Quote: St pete "The review panel set the standard last week with Matty Bowen. Sia has a good record, he's not a dirty player just like Matty Bowen.
The is a case that bowens was deliberate as he actually jumps up with the swinging arm. Sia went in hard and caught him.'"
Stuart Cummins doesn't agree with you.
Let's wait and see.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Stuart Cummins doesn't agree with you.
Let's wait and see.'"
Do you think Soliola's challenge was worse than Bowen's?
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Stuart Cummins doesn't agree with you.
Let's wait and see.'"
Stuart Cummins is a prat. Bowens was much worse but Soliola has the disadvantage of not playing in Cherry and White and not having a WCC game coming up so he may end up with a ban
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| Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Do you think Soliola's challenge was worse than Bowen's?'"
Cummins did.
They were both worthy of a ban IMO.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Cummins did.
They were both worthy of a ban IMO.'"
Do you think Soliola's challenge was worse than Bowen's?
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Percival is getting a bit of stick for that first try, but I think you'll find Wheeler is too far infield and there is no covering second rower. I'm not sure Percival could have done much'"
I disagree on that score. It was Westwood's run which drew Percy in, but Westwood actually ended up hitting the line inside Wheeler, so there was no way he should have come in. I don't want to come across like I'm giving him grief; he's a young kid and is bound to have things that need work. I thought he had a good game overall.
On the high tackles, Wilkin and Turner's were both reaction shots, so penalty sufficient. Sia's was a poor one, though, and I'd have no problem with him being banned.
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