I'd be very surprised if a insurance company would pay up as its built as its saints fault that the rain is getting in and it's not as if they don't know about the problem.

A Air-entrained concrete mix should be use for concrete slabs that are exposed to water and cold conditions.

Totally agree, blown out of all proportion. Some people have a hobby of whinging that is the real issue.

Can,t beleive all this moaning about our great "wetted" stadium. We all know its only a temporary problem, its not going to rain every friday game, if it rains dress up for the occaison. I think the new stadium has made some fans and players soft, its not as if the water is going to turn into ice or the concourses have a 1 in 4 slope, toughen up.
I should imagine installing cladding is not a quick job, we could end up attending games with scaffolding hanging about, which might be worse with regards to health and safety issues.
We,ve only got about 5 or 6 home games left, just hang on in there you unhappy ones.

Tell that to the bar staff, especially on the days when their hands were red with cold and they were shivering.

boo hoo. they have a job, plenty of people have to work when its cold

However, if they were employed as indoor bar staff they would be within their legal rights to walk out if the temperature fell to a certain level.

Oh, and outdoor workers are generally allowed to dress for the occasion. The bar staff at LP are not.

I agree with saintsfan on this, it needs sorting and to be honest should have been sorted by now.

Not only is it accident waiting to happen but it's putting future non saints games at risk of not being played at Langtree park which isn't cost effective for the club.

If its raining for the exiles game and the fans are getting set and walking thru puddles then I'd guess some will complain, if they complain to the RFL and it's proven then the RFL are not going to hold events there again.

Personally im fine in the south stand and took the decision to go in the south stand from someone at the club and he also told me to sit near the back to avoid getting wet.

If left open I can't imagine what the interior of the stadium will look like after a few years of rain and snow.

I am that soldier.

I didn't go to KR for the very reason that not only was it a dump but and a wet, cold and insanitary dump. (Aye but it was our dump.......).

As you say, if they have run out of money, then I can accept it if they need to put it off for a while but if they have no intention of doing anything, I'll continue to miss the odd game like Friday when the weather is poor.

Unless it is specfically written into their contract that is untrue. If employed by an employer for more than a month the staff must provide a minimum of one weeks notice.

The employer does have a duty of care, 16C is generally considered to be the minimum working temperature without PPE or heaters being used. However this remains guidence only and the basic rule of thumb is the more active the role the cooler a workroom can be.

Therefore the faster they serve the beer the cooler the bar can be. No Cl4dding = faster bar staff... in theory.

Well at least we have our own cladding thread, saves this stuff turning up elsewhere.

But I do know of 5 season ticket holders who are hoping they can renew but for the south stand next year or they may not get season tickets next year. And 3 of them where season ticket holders at KR and Widnes.

In the end you can call people soft, and say what about Bradford etc, but at bradford your paying less than £100 per season ticket. Bradford has not been redeveloped. If people choose not to take another season ticket the club won't be saying oh they are soft or they should count their lucky chickens, they will be saying was all the money invested worth it.

Fans will still come, it's whether they come in numbers that matters.

Like I've said previous, I'm in the posh stand (south) thanks to being tipped off by someone at saints about getting rained on.

If I was in the north stand and I was getting wet or having to sit on a wet seat, I'd have no doubt I'd ask to be moved or my season ticket money back. I don't care if people say its soft or what, I've not paid to get wet and spoil my enjoyment of watching the game.

The cladding problem is a disgrace really for the "best purpose built rugby stadium in englAnd "

Yep, that is correct but it will not be the case for the bar staff at Saints as they are agency workers. Or the majority of them are. They could walk out without any notice at all if they chose.


Indeed you are correct about the law in relation to temperature. However, there is nothing to suggest that it is guidance only. Here is what the Health & Safety Executive sayTemperatures in the workplace are covered by the Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992, which place a legal obligation on employers to provide a “reasonable” temperature in the workplace.[/i

It would appear that a single temperature cannot be used due to the varying nature of workplaces and duties undertaken. rlSee here.rl The reference to a lower temperature than 16C is in workplaces where the tasks are active and in those instances the temperature can fall to 13C. In both cases the employer is obliged to make staff 'comfortable' if the temperature is lower than either 16C (for sedentary jobs) or 13C (for active jobs). Saints appear to have failed to meet their obligations at Langtree Park on occasion. Therefore, there could be grounds for action if the staff chose to take it.