You can't slag of Gaskell,its ridiculous to do so.
He had a bad kick straight into touch and a pass into the stand, but created alot and looked more a threat with the ball. Not a perfect performance, but a good one for a young guy playing 1/2back in one of his first few games without much support from his partner.

Saddened has just gone over board because for once one of his match predictions almost came true.

Our defence seems lax. The oppo seem to be able to get too easy yards up the middle, even without particulary quick ptbs. Our attack seems too one up and one dimensional.

Quins gave ABSOLUTELY nothing away in terms of penalties and turnovers. Whereas, when something goes our way, like a penalty not finding touch, Meli catches it and manages to run into touch on the return!?

You sound bitter

Tonight:
1 - Wellens 3/10 Like public transport. Late, slow and stunk. He's not even Mr Reliable anymore

1 - Laboured return by Wellens +1.5 metres


I'm not a Saints fan and you guys obviously see him play a lot more than me but maybe you should give Wellens a bit of slack. He's playing with damaged ribs

I don't count grains of sand on Formby beach, either.

Wouldn't read too much into this result other than Quins with a new coach look like Quins with a new team.

They are playing nearly text book rugby, few mistakes, few penalties, quick play the balls, neat kicking game and good defence.

Saints with a new coach also look like Saints with a new team, a team that has forgotten how to motivate themselves (unless they are playing Wigan) and offering bollockings rather than encouragement when someone cocks up.

You'll never replace KC because he was a one off but whilst he was playing, I never once witnessed him critising his team mates, or turning his back on someone because they'd made a mistake.

Unlike a certain Mr Graham.

I get more excited watching the new stadium webcams than watching Saints at the moment.

well i posted ages ago we would be in the bottom six. We have not improved since 2006 but gone downhill. We have had our time in the sun, time for others. We need new backs and to stop giving contracts to over the hill aussies/kiwis.

Lets face it we will not win owt. Thank god for salford and wakefield.

I do not accept the excuse about young players and inexperienced players, we have had the same for many seasons now, as a few have truthfully admitted it was the way Quins approached last nights game and the attitude on the pitch that brought the success, if it is just down to a new coach at The Stoop, then it has worked even if he is only aged 30 and has not coached a Super League club before.

You are missing the point. The poster was making a statement about all the team vs Wakey were under 25 - which I agree is really good and should be appauded.
My point is that the only reason that was because a lot of the oldies who are over that age are injured and your full strength first choice team team would have a lot few er of these young talented players.
Things have improved since Smith got the job, but before that, under cullen and his sucessor, wire would only play a young player if a "senior" player was injured - that was their only chance and even then it wasn't much of a chance as they were usually dropped when the injuered player became available.

I think that's not a good comparison. The 2006 squad is one of the high water marks in SL. It was bolstered by money that may not be available again (or at least not for many years). Chairmen today would suffer cardiac arrest if they had to invest the kind of cash we did in Sculthorpe. If we're now saying that the 2006 squad is the "minimum standard" expected as far as playing talent is concerned we're going to be beating ourselves up for many seasons to come.