Pity It backfired so spectacularly,not

Christ, Wigan fans are becoming more like Liverpool fans every day. 'We were successful for a while 20 years ago, and we're clinging on HARD. Oh, and by the way, everyone hates us'

Why don't you focus on your current excellent youth system and very recent success rather than delving into the past all of the time? I don't want to burst your bubble but nobody gives a toss about 20 years ago, it is current success which breeds 'hatred' (jealousy).

Hang on, we have been champions for the last season, won the cup and also finished top last season.

We hold the cup as we speak.

Is saints best spell not also in the past? Your definition of history is rather patchy.

It was the best motivation for the players so thanks fellas. James Graham looked at it and gave a wry smile. Any chance you can do us another for the grand final?

How long before there is another 50 page scrap the salary[communist] cap thread?

You don't get that as much now that Warrington have the wonga. If anythign the competition cap is more likely to get the thumbs up across the board because people can see that it's helping to put youngsters into first grade teams instead of the same old fringe veterans.

I dunno, Deano G is enjoying his daily CC rant over on cherryandwhite as we speak.

Brett kenny and her boring little friends still prattle on about the communist cap. They are about as relevant as a chocolate fire guard in an igloo. The one good thing to come out of the goons fleeting success was the cc arguments demise. If they can get over the travesty of the GF being contested by two inferior clubs, am sure it will be resurrected in their extended off season.

Can I just correct you on that one? They were not Second Division Champions. They were second (in the shadow of York).

Of course you are correct, which sort of proves the point that Saints fans have no concept of history.

Although, I may have to redo my sig after Saturday (one way or the other)

Egypt and Greece had the greatest civilisations in the world once you know. They don't any more (although Greece have just had a good go at "doing a Wigan" by bankrupting themselves spending money they never had to try to make themselves great again I guess). I wonder how many Greeks/Egyptians shamble glassy-eyed around the streets of Cairo or Athens, foaming at the mouth and mumbling "we're the greatest nation on Earth" to anyone they can grab hold of in their clammy little hands like so many Pies still do to this day... You were great - you're not anymore. No amount of stupid, gimmicky, ripoff, droning "Brigantes" nonsense will change that fact. So ner.

Funny this thread. And there I was thinking we had won 3 trophies in 2 seasons.

Think you will find the last seasons kind of prove we are, lets re-cap.....

2010 - League Leaders winners
2010- Grand Final winners
2011 - Challenge Cup Winners

Hardly "Living in the past" is it?