Hard to influence a game your team isn't playing in.

i think if pryce has a big season we have got every chance of getting there our pack is as good as anyones in the league its just our wings that worry me

That aint a problem, we dont use em anymore.

I think we might this season - from what I've seen in the pre season games we look to be trying to move the ball again, sadly when we do we have a 1 legged sloth on one wing and liability on the other

Gotta say I hope guy sorts out his family issues and I wouldnt wish him any harm but I hope his maud tells him to get a club in Aus ....

That's very unfair. in the circumstance under discussion here Meli is one of the best assets in SL.

It is only fair to criticise Meli's brainfarts in defence, but that wasn't being discussed.

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Um. That makes him a liability. "It is only fair to criticise Meli's brainfarts in defence, '"

exactly my point

But his defence wasn't under discussion. Go back and read what was written. It was about throwing the ball about and to the wings whilst attacking. In such circumstance Meli is an asset.

Right at the moment Meli is completely effin' useless to Saints because he's on the other side of the world, but making such a point whilst talking about the attacking style of play and his contribution to the team therein would be equally irrelevent and thus unfair and gratuitous.

Just making the same obvious dig because of the grand finals etc. is so one dimensional. Surely you've got more about you than that. Surely you're more than capable of recognising shades of grey, you know, pluses amd minuses and all that. It's such complexities that make discussion interesting.

but almost everyones agrees on the main points ie
1) Meli was great for alot of last season and our best player in many matches creating alot of our go forward
2)Point 1 is irrelevant as when it matters he undoes all his hard work with stupid errors not befitting a league 1 player, let alone an international.

Spot on.

Like I said, one dimensional comments. We all know Meli drops the ball at key moments. But if you can't discuss any other aspect of his game without that one point killing it dead then maybe debateing forums are not really your scene.

maybe if you cant accept that other people have veiws as well, then they might not be for you. Just because people dont agree with you doesnt make them wrong

Exactly, it's about looking at the bigger picture and it annoys me when people just harp on about the GF (or both) it's a far bigger problem than just 2 games it's just we dont play Leeds everyweek in high pressure matches

In the last 3 years I've driven my car lots and lots, often extremely well and people have said how well I drove.

In that time I've only made two mistakes, one when I drove into a petrol pump which exploded and one when I drove into a river.

I wish people would stop going on about my mistakes and focus on the positives.

well exactly!