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| Quote: Hawkandro "From seeing him week in week out, what would you say Fages strength's and weaknesses are?'"
He's fit. He'll never give up. He'll always give his all. Decent support game. Decent distributor.
He's not a natural line-breaker, poor kicking game, and can get knocked about in defense. He doesn't seem to be a natural organiser.
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| Quote: TheButcher "He's fit. He'll never give up. He'll always give his all. Decent support game. Decent distributor.
He's not a natural line-breaker, poor kicking game, and can get knocked about in defense. He doesn't seem to be a natural organiser.'"
Just a comparison to our current half backs:
Walsh : 105 tackles, 45 missed in 16 games
Burns : 508 tackles, 74 missed in 25 games
Fages : 424 tackles, 48 missed in 19 games
Fages: 1005 meters gained (Walsh 346, Burns 780), gave away 7 penalties (Burns 23, Walsh 9)
His defensive stats don't look too bad in comparison to Burns and Walsh.
Perhaps he isn't as bad as some Salford fans, whose club he is leaving, make him out to be.
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| Any Salford who criticising are doing so with their Salford tinted glasses on, because of the manner which he left the club. It was a very unprofessional move by Theo and did absolutely nothing to expedite his release from Salford to Saints, although one thing it did do was reduce the transfer fee enormously. If you look at how Lama Tasi, Harrison Hansen and Cory Paterson have all handled their business, Theo has come across as very petulant in all of this. I accept his management team have orchestrated it all but ultimately the decisions lie with him. When that is said and done, it must have been tough for him to accept us signing Michael Dobson on a 4 year deal which effectively meant he wouldn't get the number 7 shirt until he was 25 - a stupid move by the club.
Theo is a good player, who has the potential to become very good. Don't forget the kid is only 21 and has played 66 games scoring 20 tries in the process. The vast majority of those games have been played in struggling Salford teams too. I expect under Cunningham and Longs management and training around James Roby, Luke Walsh and Jon Wilkin on a daily basis he will fulfil his very promising potential at Saints.
No doubt his biggest flaw is his kicking game, but what 21-year-old half backs do you know that can control a game in Super League with their kicking? We seen signs that this was already improving this season, no doubt influenced by Michael Dobson. He's tough and strong in defence for his size, his willingness to attack the line will impress as will his backing-up.
You've got yourself a good player, who I have no doubts will be your first choice 7 for years and years to come.
PS - should be announced either today or tomorrow.
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| Quote: John Gilbert Reds "Any Salford who criticising are doing so with their Salford tinted glasses on, because of the manner which he left the club. It was a very unprofessional move by Theo and did absolutely nothing to expedite his release from Salford to Saints, although one thing it did do was reduce the transfer fee enormously. If you look at how Lama Tasi, Harrison Hansen and Cory Paterson have all handled their business, Theo has come across as very petulant in all of this. I accept his management team have orchestrated it all but ultimately the decisions lie with him. When that is said and done, it must have been tough for him to accept us signing Michael Dobson on a 4 year deal which effectively meant he wouldn't get the number 7 shirt until he was 25 - a stupid move by the club.
Theo is a good player, who has the potential to become very good. Don't forget the kid is only 21 and has played 66 games scoring 20 tries in the process. The vast majority of those games have been played in struggling Salford teams too. I expect under Cunningham and Longs management and training around James Roby, Luke Walsh and Jon Wilkin on a daily basis he will fulfil his very promising potential at Saints.
No doubt his biggest flaw is his kicking game, but what 21-year-old half backs do you know that can control a game in Super League with their kicking? We seen signs that this was already improving this season, no doubt influenced by Michael Dobson. He's tough and strong in defence for his size, his willingness to attack the line will impress as will his backing-up.
You've got yourself a good player, who I have no doubts will be your first choice 7 for years and years to come.
PS - should be announced either today or tomorrow.'"
Cheers for that. Good reasonable post.
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| I can't see Salford losing their case, but it is suggested there seems to be an agreement with his agent, but Salford will want a good fee, can you blame them? what will it be! Yes the club may want him will they dig deep?
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| The deals already been paid it says so in the article. it's the last year of his contract Saints are paying
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| Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Just a comparison to our current half backs:
Walsh : 105 tackles, 45 missed in 16 games
Burns : 508 tackles, 74 missed in 25 games
Fages : 424 tackles, 48 missed in 19 games
Fages: 1005 meters gained (Walsh 346, Burns 780), gave away 7 penalties (Burns 23, Walsh 9)
His defensive stats don't look too bad in comparison to Burns and Walsh.
Perhaps he isn't as bad as some Salford fans, whose club he is leaving, make him out to be.
With the exception of one or two 'fans' I don't think any Salford fans have said anything unreasonable about his abilities. He's a natural HB that's potentially a diamond, but he needs some more polish before he gets there. You'll soon see what we mean.
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| Quote: TheButcher "With the exception of one or two 'fans' I don't think any Salford fans have said anything unreasonable about his abilities. He's a natural HB that's potentially a diamond, but he needs some more polish before he gets there. You'll soon see what we mean.
Haha was only tongue in cheek mate. Looking forward to seeing him on a regular basis next year.
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| If I was a Salford fan I would be pretty upset with how their halfbacks have been managed.
Both Sneyd and Fages leaving the club because Salford wanted to spend money on big names. It makes you very concerned when they cannot spot talent under their noses.
However their loss will be our gain. Hopefully Theo can fulfill his potential and be a big player for Saints and France for years to come.
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| Quote: John Gilbert Reds "Any Salford who criticising are doing so with their Salford tinted glasses on, because of the manner which he left the club. It was a very unprofessional move by Theo and did absolutely nothing to expedite his release from Salford to Saints, although one thing it did do was reduce the transfer fee enormously. If you look at how Lama Tasi, Harrison Hansen and Cory Paterson have all handled their business, Theo has come across as very petulant in all of this. I accept his management team have orchestrated it all but ultimately the decisions lie with him. '"
No tinted glasses here mate. It's also sad to see one of our product go at Salford as we don't have the production line as other clubs. However having been wathing Fages for some years now, I fail to believe the hype that a tiny minority of our fans make out to be. He wasn't even the stand out player for the academy when they lost the grand final the other year. The like of Sneyd and Evalds still ahead of him then, then we had Owen, Tyson, Marriot, Davidson. I think the core of that team have just won the title with Oldham.
He not as good as people make out and he may not be as average as some others say, the reality is he'll end up somewhere inbetween. Like I previously mentioned it obviously dissappointing to loose one of out products as a small club we are not doing too bad if we look at what we've lost over the years.
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| Quote: Noel Cleal "If I was a Salford fan I would be pretty upset with how their halfbacks have been managed.
Both Sneyd and Fages leaving the club because Salford wanted to spend money on big names. It makes you very concerned when they cannot spot talent under their noses.
However their loss will be our gain. Hopefully Theo can fulfill his potential and be a big player for Saints and France for years to come.'"
I,m almost sure Salford were assessed and given bottom place for youth development, so I suppose its not surprising young players look elsewhere for there future.
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| Quote: jaybs "I can't see Salford losing their case, but it is suggested there seems to be an agreement with his agent, but Salford will want a good fee, can you blame them? what will it be! Yes the club may want him will they dig deep?'"
There is no case to lose, the tribunal has been scrapped. Saints have agreed to pay a minimal fee which has been accepted by Salford, it is not a "good fee" by any stretch.
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| Quote: John Gilbert Reds "There is no case to lose, the tribunal has been scrapped. Saints have agreed to pay a minimal fee which has been accepted by Salford, it is not a "good fee" by any stretch.'"
Does this mean Salford thought that they may lose, or is it just a case of getting him out of the club ASAP?
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| Tweet from MarwanK wishes him all the best and thanks Saints for their professionalism in handling the move.
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