Anybody who has seen Bailey play will know that he is a weak defender. So why put him on the wing where he will have to make more tackles than he would in his normal position of fullback?

His tackling wasn't the problem.

He didn't really have to do much defending. I can't recall him missing a tackle really either. The one for the try he had no chance really.

It was kicks he struggled on.

Not sure whether it's a coaching challenge so much as a scouting challenge.

What I wonder about is our inability to find big backs. Wigan seem to have a production line of 6'0+ athletes who can shift a bit too : Burgess, Manfredi, Gelling are all considerably bigger than anyone we have in the backs. Leeds also have no problem producing or procuring big lads for the threequarters and fullback. Yet our backs production line seems to be based in Lilliput. Makinson and Swift are tiny, as is Lomax. Percival is a slip of a lad, and even Jones is hardly huge, despite playing second row a bit. None of this would mater, of course, if they were fast as whippets with the evasive skills of a particularly slippery eel, but they're not. They're moderately fast, small guys. And as RL is such a physical game, perhaps we shouldn't be overly surprised that a lot of our small backs have spent a fair bit of time injured : Wheeler, Lomax, Percival.

As someone born and bred in St Helens, I recognise that many of my fellow Sintelliners may be more broad than tall, but at 6 foot I wasn't a freak ! Yet even our homegrown forwards tend to be on the small side. Beefy, but short. Clough-clones. So where are the big lads coming up through the youth teams ? Where are our equivalents of Burgess and Manfredi, Hardaker and Watkins ? Get some size in there !

We were asking that exact question during and after the game

That try should never have been given. I saw it on SLS yesterday and Bailey had nailed him over the touchline. I thought that was a terrific tackle given that the rest of the team had left him entirely isolated. Good that he didn't get tempted in like our regular wingers can be. Just a pity we didn't have the video ref present on that occasion.

Manfredi shorter than Swift? Is someone having a laugh ?

Btw, I disagree on Gelling. I think if he played for us, despite his brainfarts, he'd be our most dangerous back.

Take your point about Greenwood, but also worth noting that he has the best prospects of any forward we've produced since Graham, and he's a big lad. We need more like him.

Fair enough, that's your opinion but I don't see us clambering to swap Percy/Makinson/Swift/Turner/Lomax for Gelling any time soon!

I think the selection of Bailey shows just how much Cunningham doesn't want Dawson in at winger. I'm not sure him at full back would have meant him dealing with high balls any better either, he'd just have been taking them in the middle of the pitch rather than on the side, Hull would still have targetted him.

Taking the high balls at Full Back is generally easier than on the wing. The kicks Bailey struggled with were attacking kicks when he was under a lot of pressure, you don't get that weighted lob from 20m out coming at you when you're at Full Back. It's a mid field bomb, a punt or a grubber that you generally have to deal with.

I think the size of our young backs is completely irrelevant. The problem is we aren't able to - or refuse to - promote players occupying slots one-to-seven anywhere near as quickly as eight-to-thirteen.

Why this is - I don't know.

9 too, we are crying out for a young Roby/ Cunningham to come through

No we don't promote many backs really do we? Lomax, swift, makinson, jones, percy in the current team.

Also, the likes of Gaskell, Matty smith, Jamie Ellis, Scott Moore who are still running about in rugby league.

I realise you aren't particularly bright but - will you ever respond to what I actually said rather than what I said put through your own filter of prejudice?