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| Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "Plenty of you saying it was a ridiculous decision. If a Wigan player had done it to a Saints player you'd be on the phone to the police
Dead right we would with Wanes objectives of tackle to injure, do Wigan still have those "rugby car crash pictures" in the corridor of the Orrell training ground!.
When I saw them a few seasons ago..........beyond the borderline of sport.
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| Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "Plenty of you saying it was a ridiculous decision. If a Wigan player had done it to a Saints player you'd be on the phone to the police
That's because it would have been intentional .
Police? Can't recall saints or lance Hohaia calling the police when Ben Flower assaulted Lance?
Didn't saints offers the support to the disgraceful Ben Flower?
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| Having watched the game back the yellow was deserved.
As for Saints getting all the decisions, the massive NFL block that took place the tackle before carney's first try was comical. It's as if ref's are now scared to give obstruction.
Interestingly enough sky didn't really make a lot of it compared with Phil Clarke's 'oh no!!!' with the forward pass call which was an understandable decision given that the player was stood in front of the guy passing the ball
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| Amor charged grade c
Burns charged grade b
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| Not sure how the RFL can charge Burns for that on Carney when they let Carney get away with a far worse tackle on Escare the last round (after banning Ah Van in R1)...yet again no consistency
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| Burns 1 match
Amor 2 matches
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| I can see Amor getting a couple of matches. I think it would be harsh to ban Burns - he's got a pretty solid defence in that he was thrown off kilter by the hand-off. That one should be penalty sufficient IMO. He does have previous, though, so it may not go his way.
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| I don't mind those challenges being bans, as soft as they are, but there is just no consistency. I would LOVE to be able to grill the people in charge about how incompetent they are. Burns's high shot was with an open palm, more of a slapping motion. It was an attempt at a grab that ended up high due to Carney's hand off. No way a ban when you compare to Carney's attempt to take Escare's head off in Perpignan as mentioned above.
Amor's was poor technique and ultimately is dangerous. So a 2-3 game ban after a yellow card marks that down as a serious offense. But will we see the same punishment handed out for repeats of this in SL? No, of course we won't.
I think Saints should kick off about how the televised games are over refereed and the non-televised games tend to escape punishment. I see Charnley escaped what even Wigan fans are saying was a clear Smith-esque petulant kick during the Hull KR game. Ignored by the disciplinary as they couldn't tell if it made contact? Utterly bizarre.
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Quote: Saddened! "I don't mind those challenges being bans, as soft as they are, but there is just no consistency. I would LOVE to be able to grill the people in charge about how incompetent they are. Burns's high shot was with an open palm, more of a slapping motion. It was an attempt at a grab that ended up high due to Carney's hand off. No way a ban when you compare to Carney's attempt to take Escare's head off in Perpignan as mentioned above.
Amor's was poor technique and ultimately is dangerous. So a 2-3 game ban after a yellow card marks that down as a serious offense. But will we see the same punishment handed out for repeats of this in SL? No, of course we won't.
I think Saints should kick off about how the televised games are over refereed and the non-televised games tend to escape punishment. I see Charnley escaped what even Wigan fans are saying was a clear Smith-esque petulant kick during the Hull KR game. Ignored by the disciplinary as they couldn't tell if it made contact? Utterly bizarre.'"
This would be my argument against any ban and the credibility of the RFL disciplinary.
www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?5890
You can find the incident on this page Wire Vs Salford 1 min into the highlights...
www.superleague.co.uk/sltv/slhighlights#
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Quote: Saddened! "I don't mind those challenges being bans, as soft as they are, but there is just no consistency. I would LOVE to be able to grill the people in charge about how incompetent they are. Burns's high shot was with an open palm, more of a slapping motion. It was an attempt at a grab that ended up high due to Carney's hand off. No way a ban when you compare to Carney's attempt to take Escare's head off in Perpignan as mentioned above.
Amor's was poor technique and ultimately is dangerous. So a 2-3 game ban after a yellow card marks that down as a serious offense. But will we see the same punishment handed out for repeats of this in SL? No, of course we won't.
I think Saints should kick off about how the televised games are over refereed and the non-televised games tend to escape punishment. I see Charnley escaped what even Wigan fans are saying was a clear Smith-esque petulant kick during the Hull KR game. Ignored by the disciplinary as they couldn't tell if it made contact? Utterly bizarre.'"
This would be my argument against any ban and the credibility of the RFL disciplinary.
www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?5890
You can find the incident on this page Wire Vs Salford 1 min into the highlights...
www.superleague.co.uk/sltv/slhighlights#
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| The major problem is that the Sky matches have multiple cameras and therefore multiple angles to have views of any incident. I was at HKR yesterday and didn't see the Charnley incident and there was no camera evidence. I did see Ben Cockayne throwing punches as it was directly in front of where we were sat. It would appear that hasn't been picked up by the camera as it was away from the ball.
Had the game been on Sky then I suspect the review committee would have had a much clearer view on what happened..
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "The major problem is that the Sky matches have multiple cameras and therefore multiple angles to have views of any incident. I was at HKR yesterday and didn't see the Charnley incident and there was no camera evidence. I did see Ben Cockayne throwing punches as it was directly in front of where we were sat. It would appear that hasn't been picked up by the camera as it was away from the ball.
Had the game been on Sky then I suspect the review committee would have had a much clearer view on what happened..'"
And that is grossly wrong for a full time professional sport.
A quick count shows of the 13 charges the rfl have raised so far, 12 were from games on Sky ...
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| We will struggle without Amor next week or so. He's our only prop that can do decent mins. Big Alex is a 20 min player and Mose 8 min player so I think we will be counting on young Thonpson and Lms to do Amors mins.
I've not seen the incident on tv as couldn't be bothered watching the game again but from what I seen on the big screen it didn't look to bad and yellow seemed correct call.
Same with Burns, I've only seen it at the game and must admit I thought it was worthy of a ban.
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| Saints are appealing both decisions. Good on them, Saints should always be anti establishment and neither were really worthy of a ban, especially Burns's which looks softer and softer the longer I watch it. The Sky commentary at the time must be looked at as well.
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| Amors was a bad tackle but didnt look like there was any malice in it. Should be sin bin sufficient and a letter about technique.
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| Quote: Saddened! "...Talking of refereeing decisions, I'd like to see a replay of the Carney try from the kick. He's so fat and slow that there's no way he would have had time to move forwards 10m, plant his feet and wait for the ball to arrive if he was where he should have been when the kick went up.'"
Easily onside...don't be so sour.
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