Seriously. Or is this just a case of Hock baiting.

I here it's the new craze in Salford and Koukash has put £4million on Hock baiting in an attempt to recover his losses.

This gave me a giggle.

According to the Salford board, Masoe milked the injury from the forearm smash to the face and the rubbing of the knees in his head to get a penalty, all the NRL's fault and St Hock is innocent Guvnor

I have no sympathy left for the guy. The talent he has is wasted on him, and my advice to any coach who thinks they could sort him out would be forget it, and put your chair and whip away.

6 match ban, well deserved

You can't defend the undefinable but your comments as usual are pure utter tripe.
Name me a better ball handling forward in the past decade?
Gareth's time has been and gone all down to his total lack of self control so no sympathy from me however, to say he lacks bottle is total shoite.
Oh sorry I forgot how LMS sorted him out at Magic Weekend or how Hard Lard Mosoe ripped into him last week.

James graham

SBW, Gareth Ellis, Jon Wilkin (seriously), Sculthorpe, Farrell, S Burgess.

Just to get the ball rolling.

I'm a great admirer of James Graham however, I wouldn't describe him as a classic ball player.
I'd have him in my team in a heartbeat though!
Best thing about Graham is that you get 80 minutes of total full on commitment every week. You can't buy that as Marwan knows!

Not a classic ball player yet he's first receiver for most of Canterbury's plays. You don't half talk rubbish.

James graham is a great ball player, in fact andrew Johns described him as being a better ball player than most halves in the NRL.

The guy leeds signed on is also a ball playing prop.

I haven't seen enough of SBW so can't comment but sorry can't agree on the rest.
Hock is a throwback and there are very few if any decent ball handlers playing in the forwards in SL in my opinion. Today's coaches and fans just dont want someone who can create gaps but at the risk of loosing possession. Sad but true me thinks.
If you'd have said a player going back further say George Nicholls then ok but non of the present or recent crew.

A classic ball playing forward wouldn't normally take the ball as first receiver.
Not rubbish just an opinion that's differnt to yours.
It's your opinion so your right and its my opinion so I'm right. Simple really.

Hock has a good off load buts never a ball player in million years

I watched Gareth from the under 8's through to signing professional and he had it all but unfortunately he has thrown it away.
With the right attitude he could have been a great player.
A sad loss but the game will move on and unfortunately will only remember his faults which to a large degree he deserves.