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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "How did the awesome foursome go last night?
Instead of trying to derail almost every thread on here & redvee why don't you just F**K Off and post your inane drivel on the cherry & sh**e board, it's becoming so tedious now.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "www.redvee.net/forums/showthread.php?25859-The-awesome-foursome'"
lmao that post is hilarious. Walmsley is your only decent forward now (and Sia when he bothers to turn up). The rest aren't even remotely awesome.
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| Quote: Wigg'n "lmao that post is hilarious. Walmsley is your only decent forward now (and Sia when he bothers to turn up). The rest aren't even remotely awesome.'"
Terrible effort, Amor is better than Walmesly for starters
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| Quote: Saint Simon "Terrible effort, Amor is better than Walmesly for starters'"
wat
He's played half of the season...
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| Quote: Wigg'n "wat
He's played half of the season...'"
So has Walsh, does that make him a bad scrum half?
Awesome Wigan logic on show here
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| Quote: Saint Simon "So has Walsh, does that make him a bad scrum half?
Awesome Wigan logic on show here'"
What about Lomax he has only played a third of the season, worst 'fullback in super league".
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| Quote: Saint Simon "Terrible effort, Amor is better than Walmesly for starters'"
I would disagree with that. He can play the ball better but that's probably about it.
There is only one stat I could use to compare the two given the number of games Amor has missed through injury and that's average gain (unless I just compared the actual games they have both played in but it's too late on a Sunday evening for that kind of effort!).
Amor's average gain is 7.24m.
Walmsley's average gain is 8.43m.
(Mosoe's average gain is 8.29m)
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
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| Quote: curly990 "Instead of trying to derail almost every thread on here & redvee why don't you just F**K Off and post your inane drivel on the cherry & sh**e board, it's becoming so tedious now.
If you had bothered to look at who posted "The awesome foursome" thread on red vee then you would know why I responded. And as I presume that Masoe was one of these "awesome foursome" it was on topic.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "I would disagree with that. He can play the ball better but that's probably about it.
There is only one stat I could use to compare the two given the number of games Amor has missed through injury and that's average gain (unless I just compared the actual games they have both played in but it's too late on a Sunday evening for that kind of effort!).
Amor's average gain is 7.24m.
Walmsley's average gain is 8.43m.
(Mosoe's average gain is 8.29m)'"
Jamie Peacocks is 6.29m which shows that a players average gain can't be the best way to decide who's a better prop.
I bet James Graham's wasn't always huge either in comparison to mountains like Walmsley or Masoe.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Jamie Peacocks is 6.29m which shows that a players average gain can't be the best way to decide who's a better prop.
I bet James Graham's wasn't always huge either in comparison to mountains like Walmsley or Masoe.'"
I'm sure James Graham's was always huge actually. He used to win the metre maker award every year.
I didn't say average gain was the best way to decide who is the best prop. I said it was the only stat I could use because Amor has missed most of the season injured. I think it's a fairly reasonable indicator though as Walmsley's fun against London, for instance, will have been countered by his tougher efforts against Wigan or Leeds. While Amor hasn't had the benefit of the London games to boost his stats nor has he had the more restrictive opponents like Wigan to inhibit them.
On visuals alone though Walmsley generally appears to make more metres with the ball than Amor.
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
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Quote: SaintsFan "I'm sure James Graham's was always huge actually. He used to win the metre maker award every year.
I didn't say average gain was the best way to decide who is the best prop. I said it was the only stat I could use because Amor has missed most of the season injured. I think it's a fairly reasonable indicator though as Walmsley's fun against London, for instance, will have been countered by his tougher efforts against Wigan or Leeds. While Amor hasn't had the benefit of the London games to boost his stats nor has he had the more restrictive opponents like Wigan to inhibit them.
On visuals alone though Walmsley generally appears to make more metres with the ball than Amor.'"
James Grahams average gain was way down on Walmsleys, but his overall yardage was much better as, like Peacock plays he lots more minutes.
www.superleague.co.uk/stats/player_stats
Amor played in one of the games against London.
www.superleague.co.uk/matchday/player/10352
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Quote: SaintsFan "I'm sure James Graham's was always huge actually. He used to win the metre maker award every year.
I didn't say average gain was the best way to decide who is the best prop. I said it was the only stat I could use because Amor has missed most of the season injured. I think it's a fairly reasonable indicator though as Walmsley's fun against London, for instance, will have been countered by his tougher efforts against Wigan or Leeds. While Amor hasn't had the benefit of the London games to boost his stats nor has he had the more restrictive opponents like Wigan to inhibit them.
On visuals alone though Walmsley generally appears to make more metres with the ball than Amor.'"
James Grahams average gain was way down on Walmsleys, but his overall yardage was much better as, like Peacock plays he lots more minutes.
www.superleague.co.uk/stats/player_stats
Amor played in one of the games against London.
www.superleague.co.uk/matchday/player/10352
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery " as, like Peacock plays he lots more minutes.'"
Jeez, now Rogues thinks he's Yoda
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| I suppose the frustrating thing as a Saints fan Is you know he`s just been lazy. He has the ability, he has shown it against one of the very best packs in the world at the world cup ! so why cant he put the effort in now?
Too many overseas players come over for the holiday and fans have every right to rant to get rid as at the end of the day is there hard money that pays there wages!
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| Quote: Wildcat26 "I suppose the frustrating thing as a Saints fan Is you know he`s just been lazy. He has the ability, he has shown it against one of the very best packs in the world at the world cup ! so why cant he put the effort in now?
Too many overseas players come over for the holiday and fans have every right to rant to get rid as at the end of the day is there hard money that pays there wages!'"
Much like Saints, you don't know what you're going to get from week to week.
We've had some great rugby displays, some gritty, ground out victories with a depleted side, but we've also had some performances that have lacked any heart and some that are just bereft of any sort of competence.
That's why we're all so tetchy, we know that we can play (one way or the other), we just don't on a regular occasion, normally when us species have all built ourselves up for a good show.
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| Quote: Wildcat26 "I suppose the frustrating thing as a Saints fan Is you know he`s just been lazy. He has the ability, he has shown it against one of the very best packs in the world at the world cup ! so why cant he put the effort in now?
Too many overseas players come over for the holiday and fans have every right to rant to get rid as at the end of the day is there hard money that pays there wages!'"
If he could replicate his world cup form week in & week out he would still be plying his trade in the NRL as a top prop forward on twice as much money as Saints pay him but sadly this is not the case. If he can be as destructive in the play offs as he was at the DW a few weeks back then I for one would be happy.
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