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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "Did we play him against one of the best clubs in the league whilst handling the pressure of potentially keeping top spot, with no senior players around him?'"
theres no pressure on him, he only has to be better than wheeler/turner!
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| Quote: Saint Simon "theres no pressure on him, he only has to be better than wheeler/turner!'"
And it's precisely that attitude that led to mrs Savelio posting what she did in the op
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "Did we play him against one of the best clubs in the league whilst handling the pressure of potentially keeping top spot, with no senior players around him?'"
The extreme of "if we play him we ruin his career" is just as daft, actually more so, than saying give him a game to see if he can play a steady kicking role.
Your reference to Leeds is irrelevant if people have been wondering about him getting the odd 40 mins against the easy beats.
As for pressure of keeping top spot? Do any of us genuinely think we're going to finish top? If not, is there really any pressure associated with it?
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "And it's precisely that attitude that led to mrs Savelio posting what she did in the op'"
Errr, no - that was some people questioning his attitude for no good reason.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Did we run his career when we played him last year?'"
Playing him against a very poor Salford team at home in the snow is hardly sticking him in at the business end of the season and asking him to perform
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| Quote: St pete "Playing him against a very poor Salford team at home in the snow is hardly sticking him in at the business end of the season and asking him to perform'"
This isn't "the business end", we are not going to finish top so in a way the rest of the games are meaningless other than to try to see who would work best as a steady, kicking half back for the play offs.
He might not perform too well and then he wouldn't play in the play offs. On the other hand he may make a steady job of it.
I think saying you ruin the career of a lad who is nearly 20 by playing him in an injury crisis is nonsense to be honest. We've played younger lads at prop against the biggest packs in the league.
To be honest, I'll never be convinced that not giving him some minutes in that little run where we had London and Bradford was the right course of action.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "This isn't "the business end", we are not going to finish top so in a way the rest of the games are meaningless other than to try to see who would work best as a steady, kicking half back for the play offs.
He might not perform too well and then he wouldn't play in the play offs. On the other hand he may make a steady job of it.
I think saying you ruin the career of a lad who is nearly 20 by playing him in an injury crisis is nonsense to be honest. We've played younger lads at prop against the biggest packs in the league.
To be honest, I'll never be convinced that not giving him some minutes in that little run where we had London and Bradford was the right course of action.'"
Never once mentioned a injury. I'm saying he couid damage the lads confidence and set him back big time.
The lad isn't even playing in the halves for the u19s. Surely if Brown thought he was ready, he'd be playing.
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| Quote: St pete "Never once mentioned a injury. I'm saying he couid damage the lads confidence and set him back big time.
The lad isn't even playing in the halves for the u19s. Surely if Brown thought he was ready, he'd be playing.'"
How mentally fragile can he be? If by twenty a bad game might ruin his career, this might not be for him ever.
In other news why isn't he playing hb in the U19's?
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| Quote: Saint Simon "How mentally fragile can he be? If by twenty a bad game might ruin his career, this might not be for him ever.
In other news why isn't he playing hb in the U19's?'"
Yet again IMO he's not good enough.
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| Brian McDemott was not ready when he was 20, plenty of players were not ready when they were 20+. The point is they maybe ready in a year or 2.
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| Quote: St pete "Yet again IMO he's not good enough.'"
and in my experience if he's not good enough by 20, he never will be more than average
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| Quote: bewareshadows "Brian McDemott was not ready when he was 20, plenty of players were not ready when they were 20+. The point is they maybe ready in a year or 2.'"
thats true of forwards, where physical size is essential but not so much half backs
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| Sean Long, Bobbie Goulding, Kevin Brown, Matty Smith, Danny Brough,
All deamed not good enough, before Huddersfield Danny Brough would have been deamed a very poor half by most Saints fans.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "Brian McDemott was not ready when he was 20, plenty of players were not ready when they were 20+. The point is they maybe ready in a year or 2.'"
It's not like Brown is afraid to use the kids. He's used swift, Percy, Richards, thompson, walker etc regular as he knows they are ready.
I think he does a excellent job with bringing the kids in and how he handles them.
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| Quote: Saint Simon "In other news why isn't he playing hb in the U19's?'"
I think it's pretty simple. The club don't see him playing hb going forward.
In the u19s squad, Hewitt, Richardson and Fairhurst are the only real out and out stand offs/scrum halfs that we have. Charnock is best suited in the forwards. Whether that be at loose forward or hooker. That is where the club believe his future lies. The coaches see him day in day out at training and they analyse the videos endlessly.
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