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You'll beat Salford!
Anyone who saw the TV game v Wigan will have seen how dreadful they really are these days.

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Anyone who saw the TV game v Wigan will have seen how dreadful they really are these days.'"


That's down to the "saviour" of rugby league Dr Cockrash. His rash signings and listening to what fans want is a big problem there. I'm sure he sees someone on twitter say X is a good player so he signs him.

They have a team a good individuals and on their day can beat anyone but they don't look like a team, they just look like a load of players with good ability thrown together ain't no balance or thought.

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Quote: Sthelens RLFC "Wilkin could play like Ellery Hanley every game and still get negative comments on here. Totally agree with you, all you read on here is negative and disrespectful comments about players , coaches and back room staff. People on here think they are coaches or even some of them think they are super league players. They have not got a clue about the game, how it should be played. All the players give their all week in week out, Wilkin is one of those, he always has and will continue to do so until he retires

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Quote: The Reaper "I was just happy to see us showing some desire. I thought we were very good in the first half. The 2nd half just saw a drop off in quality in general and was pretty hard to watch in parts, with so many errors knocking about. I'll put that down to the conditions though. I'm just hoping that we're turning the corner, rather than putting it in for one week because of everything that has been said.

At least a win will make my facebook timeline easier to read. The amount of utter idiots that post on that Saints RLFC group is unreal!'"

Totally agree with that comment

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Wilkin is a very influential player in the team, sometimes he makes mistakes with the amount of involvment he has in the majority of the matches we play.

The mistake people make on here is that because he has a no 12 on his back and he packs down in that position they assume he is a second row.......he is not.

Over the many, many years of watching Saints, the style of open rugby is partly due to our "loose" forwards and I dont mean a no 13. Most of the time presently and historically the Saints style of play is a passing game, this is where we have our back 3 adapting to that passing role.

The only problem Wilkin has is consistency, a couple of games below par and he gets slated on here.

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Quote: Tryhard " All the players give their all week in week out'"


You need to get your head out of the sand and stop being so naive.

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Quote: Tryhard "Totally agree with you, all you read on here is negative and disrespectful comments about players , coaches and back room staff. People on here think they are coaches or even some of them think they are super league players. They have not got a clue about the game, how it should be played. All the players give their all week in week out, Wilkin is one of those, he always has and will continue to do so until he retires'"

Have all 24 of your posts been this bad? If your dumb statement was true Eamon wouldn't had to say some of the things he has in the last couple of seasons would he.

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Luckily we have both ends of the spectrum, the overly gushing and the hypersaddened.


Yes Saddened has become a adjective.

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Quote: bewareshadows "Luckily we have both ends of the spectrum, the overly gushing and the hypersaddened.


Yes Saddened has become a adjective.'"


I thought it was a standard unit of negativity? Aka the Bradford board is currently around 5saddeneds where as the Salford board is only 2saddeneds and the Leeds board is -2saddeneds?

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Quote: Magic Superbeetle "I thought it was a standard unit of negativity? Aka the Bradford board is currently around 5saddeneds where as the Salford board is only 2saddeneds and the Leeds board is -2saddeneds?'"



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We've certainly had the biggest range of measurement. From -5 Saddeneds pre Easter to probably 3 or 4 last week.

I do include myself in that. Although I'd put my self going from -4 to 2.

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Quote: Magic Superbeetle "I thought it was a standard unit of negativity? Aka the Bradford board is currently around 5saddeneds where as the Salford board is only 2saddeneds and the Leeds board is -2saddeneds?'"



Saddened has been missing of late so is Saints currently measured at "zero saddened" units.

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Quote: Judder Man "The mistake people make on here is that because he has a no 12 on his back and he packs down in that position they assume he is a second row.......he is not.

Over the many, many years of watching Saints, the style of open rugby is partly due to our "loose" forwards and I dont mean a no 13. Most of the time presently and historically the Saints style of play is a passing game, this is where we have our back 3 adapting to that passing role.

The only problem Wilkin has is consistency, a couple of games below par and he gets slated on here.'"

He appears to dip in and out of both roles. I've kind of stuck him in a 'ball playing second row' position coz frankly I can't figure out what the heck he's doing most times, except when he's trying to boss the play and getting in Walsh's way!

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IMO Wilkin has been the best and most consistent player for the last couple of seasons. I don't like him as a person but that's for a good reason.
I think a lot of Saints fans dislike him for his t.v. work which they seem to think takes preference over his playing.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "IMO Wilkin has been the best and most consistent player for the last couple of seasons. I don't like him as a person but that's for a good reason.
I think a lot of Saints fans dislike him for his t.v. work which they seem to think takes preference over his playing.'"


He's had one good season since 2007. The 5 year deal we gave him was shocking! He's just not adapted to the modern game in size, power of strength.

I'd get get shut if poss.

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I think Wilkin has suffered at times with the way the game has changed and evolved over the years. When he first came into the side I thought of him as a 13 with a decent pair of hands, bit of a running game, and you can never really fault him for effort. As most people will know though, teams generally use their 13's as a third prop through the middle and are primarily judged on their go forward and metres made. Anything else is a bonus, so it seems.

I think he's shown some nice touches this season down that left side. He started the season in great form IMO, but on the back of the likes of Amor and Walsmley. I actually think he looks really good when we are winning the ruck because he has a decent pair of hands and can distribute, but in those tight games he does tend to struggle because he just isn't big enough to really impose himself on the game in the back-row with the ball in his hand. There really isn't a great deal he can do about that.

Had he been gifted with a bit more pace I doubt he would have stepped foot anywhere near a forward pack. Had he been born 15 years earlier he may have been given the loose forward role and have had the opportunity to express himself a little bit more. He's adapted his game a little bit this season and I believe that the club are pleased with his contribution and Brown's interview today confirms that.

There are plenty out there in a similar position to him. Lack the speed or are too big to play in the halves, not quite big enough to play in the pack but are decent footballer's. What happens to them? They become workhorses who are almost stuck between those two positions, not really through any fault of their own.

I think we're bringing the best out of him though using him as a left sided back-rower. He runs some great lines and offers some distribution down the left hand side. I thought he was very good against Huddersfield on Friday. He does his best and has done his best to make the most out of what he has.

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