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| Quote: St pete "Brett Ferres is a good player. We should have gone for him when he was available instead of giving wilkin a 5 year deal.'"
We should have gone for Chan too, when he left Crusaders. He wouldn't have counted on the quota, as overseas players leaving them got exemption.
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| Quote: pies-r-us "Brown, was he the best thing since sliced bread? Give him a chance! That’s unless he says he wants to go home again. I remember a time (not so long ago) when a lot of wire was saying Smith out! but now look which part of his body is emanating the sun.
Smith out!
Ridiculous comment.
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| Quote: St. Rughead "We should have gone for Chan too, when he left Crusaders. He wouldn't have counted on the quota, as overseas players leaving them got exemption.'"
Was he 16 last night?
I thought the 16 had a good game
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| Quote: St pete "Was he 16 last night?
I thought the 16 had a good game'"
Yeah, caused us all sorts of problems down our left.
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| 1 game people!!!!!! For pity's sake calm down.
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| Quote: Top Saint "1 game people!!!!!! For pity's sake calm down.'"
I don't care whether its round 1 or round 26, losing 40-4 at home is unacceptable.
I seriously hope the players review games with a better attitude than that, I really do.
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| Quote: pies-r-us " I remember a time (not so long ago) when a lot of wire was saying Smith out! but now look which part of his body is emanating the sun.
When was this? Smith's never had a bad run with Wire? If there were posts saying Smith out it might have been me doing a wind up.
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| Let's hope for a backlash at Widnes!
Barrie McDermott's keeping the faith on Super League Fulltime. Thinks we'll still win the Mickey Mouse Shield.
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| Quote: St. Rughead "Let's hope for a backlash at Widnes!
Barrie McDermott's keeping the faith on Super League Fulltime. Thinks we'll still win the Mickey Mouse Shield.'"
Absolutely no chance unless the club faces up to the decisions it's been due to make for about 3 years now.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Absolutely no chance unless the club faces up to the decisions it's been due to make for about 3 years now.'"
Which are?
I agree that if this keeps up, things need to change drastically, but so far, it's just one game, although a very bad one.
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| The players were to blame. It was a simple case that the Giants turned up to play in a higher gear than us.
When they had us on our line, they limited our yards. When we had them on theirs, they could easily drive for 5 x 10m to get themselves out of trouble.
The panic that ensued in our rank spoilt any chance of attack, with sloppy passes, stupid offloads and poor last play options.
Total lack of focus.
There's no point pointing the finger at players base ability. Hudds were woeful in the game at Langtree last year in a similar fashion. Its the team dynamic that was at fault and needs to be remidied.
Its only one game. I've seen Saints get a towling like that and go on to win a grand final two weeks later. I had hoped that now royce had moved on, our slow starts would have gone as well,but hey ho.
Lets see what the Widnes game brings. As pointed out by the sky muppets, Huddersfield have won their opening fixture in the previous two superleage campaigns against the side the eventually won the league leaders shield. Fingers crossed.
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| I blame the lack of cladding
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "I had hoped that now royce had moved on, our slow starts would have gone as well,but hey ho.'"
Eh? We lost neither of our first two games under Simmons. We won the first two last season (I can't remember whether we won the second game in 2011, having drawn with Wigan in the first game in 2011). Our slow starts came under Daniel Anderson if memory serves as he didn't believe in friendlies, though I think we also lost first games under Potter.
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| To me it looked as though the players had got a bit carried away with the positivity that seems to have been hovering about the place recently and had turned up unprepared for a fight. By the time they realised what was going on it was too late, as Brough was continually pinning us in our own 10m area and we had done extensive amounts of exhausting defence. It reminded me of many of our recent games against Wigan, in which we have tended to start at a markedly inferior pace and had the stuffing knocked out of us within 15 minutes; when you do that it's nigh on impossible to turn things around unless your opponents let you back into the game with errors or penalties - Huddersfield didn't do that on Saturday.
I don't think it means that we're going to struggle this year (we'll probably turn up all angry next week and give Widnes a bit of a tonking) but it does worry me that in the first competitive game for months, under a new coach and with a new season ahead, we came out at jogging pace. The players should have been straining at the leash to get out there and hit someone.
Hopefully a one off.
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| I'm pretty such Dux has hit the nail on the head.
It should not have happened, but the fact it did, cannot be extropolated to predict the rest of the season.
Sure some people have a constant axe to grind and will use anything win,lose or draw to grind it, but take out those with an agenda and people are just miffed that the players did not come out competitively.
Had we been competitive and lost by that amount then there would be cause to worry.
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