Gaz Frodsham springs to mind. He was also getting great reviews, he was captain of England but we put him in to early.

If he's not ready then he's better in u20s for his sake and ours.

One bad game doesn't make him useless. He was a bit wild yesterday but he was there with the kind of aggression we needed to win the game. He is a pack leader in those circumstances and without him on the pitch we lose that. He sets the example.

I should add that Westwood provides a similar role with Warrington (note, similar, not the same). Without him in their defensive line up there wasn't that flying around that he can bring, which fires up your own team to get into the game with him. If he's back in two weeks time it'll be a different game.

Yes - we can play some random kids in the team instead of our proven top-line internationals in our most important game of the season. Giving them experience will be far more vital to us than trying to win the game, right?

Just 1 bad game Bit wild Ive been hoping now for 2 seasons for him too prove to the fans he was the real deal,it aint happening,he cant cut it,whether it by the injuries he's sustained just after we signed him or since he's been here but he must rate as 1 of the worst signings we've had in recent years per salary cap £'s to the team,mind you lance has a chance of pushing him close.

As for comparing him similarly too westwood in any shape or form is just a joke

came with a big rep and has ended up being a massive disappointment i.m.o which is most unlike saints regards over sea's recruitments