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| I'm more surprised that Hull have performed so well of late, with Gentle making it quite clear he thinks he needs 6-7 new players next year and letting players go mid-season even though they are short on numbers. If he was a permier league manager then it would be fair play as he could just go out and buy whoever, but in RL, with the limit cap wise and transfer wise it seams a bit short shrift with players that he needs to finish this season with.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "
Although I agree with what you have said.
Apart from about three games Turner has been average all this season, this goes along with the previous two years of being average, his defence is awful and his attack is only good against weaker teams.
Foster has been an awful signing, I have never seen a weaker winger, he makes hardly any yards at all, apart from his kicking he offers nothing at all, I'd be surprised to see him playing SL in a couple of years, with his kicking I would go to RU if I was him, or he will be playing Championship rugby very soon.
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| Quote: Dave K. "
Foster has been an awful signing, I have never seen a weaker winger, he makes hardly any yards at all, apart from his kicking he offers nothing at all, I'd be surprised to see him playing SL in a couple of years, with his kicking I would go to RU if I was him, or he will be playing Championship rugby very soon.'"
I think quite a few people on here would support that view. He is a good finisher but he needs someone to create the chances for him ..
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| Quote: No1 Saint "I think quite a few people on here would support that view. He is a good finisher but he needs someone to create the chances for him ..'"
I quiet like him and you cant argue with his effort and enthusiasm, but he just isn't big, elusive or quick enough to play top level SL.
We have a young winger Lineham who is 4 games of professional rugby has shown more than Foster has.
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| Quote: Dave K. "I quiet like him and you cant argue with his effort and enthusiasm, but he just isn't big, elusive or quick enough to play top level SL.
We have a young winger Lineham who is 4 games of professional rugby has shown more than Foster has.'"
Can't disagree with the Foster comments really , it's a shame really but I can see him in the championship or Union in the not too distant
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| Quote: Dave K. "I quiet like him and you cant argue with his effort and enthusiasm, but he just isn't big, elusive or quick enough to play top level SL.'"
You're spouting the same stuff as some fans on here have, which is fundamentally to do with his physique, something he has little control over. Your whole team was a shambles yesterday so it is ridiculous to single him out. He saved your team's bacon in your recent derby match, another game which was on TV.
Oh, and he's pretty quick as you may recall from the drop out he forced in your derby game. The rest of your team just stood around while he was legging it across the pitch.
Fickle fans really do spoil RL.
Quote: Dave K. "We have a young winger Lineham who is 4 games of professional rugby has shown more than Foster has.'"
Not yesterday he didn't. He was just as bad as the rest of them.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "You're spouting the same stuff as some fans on here have, which is fundamentally to do with his physique, something he has little control over. Your whole team was a shambles yesterday so it is ridiculous to single him out. He saved your team's bacon in your recent derby match, another game which was on TV.
Oh, and he's pretty quick as you may recall from the drop out he forced in your derby game. The rest of your team just stood around while he was legging it across the pitch.
Fickle fans really do spoil RL.
Not yesterday he didn't. He was just as bad as the rest of them.'"
I really hope Dave K doesn't think you in any way represent Saints fans who know anything about Rugby at all. It's not his fault he's too slight , fair enough but that doesn't mean we should just accept it and play him anyways.
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| Quote: No1 Saint "I really hope Dave K doesn't think you in any way represent Saints fans who know anything about Rugby at all. It's not his fault he's too slight , fair enough but that doesn't mean we should just accept it and play him anyways.'"
Grow up.
It is stupid to criticise a player for his size, and that is precisely what Dave K was doing, and what others on here have done - probably you included, you say such daft things sometimes.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Grow up.
It is stupid to criticise a player for his size, and that is precisely what Dave K was doing, and what others on here have done - probably you included, you say such daft things sometimes.'"
Me grow up ? Seriously it's not criticism its TRUE. You need to just accept it , Foster will never make it at Saints
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| Quote: SaintsFan "You're spouting the same stuff as some fans on here have, which is fundamentally to do with his physique, something he has little control over.'"
So what? Dave K said he isn't big enough. He didn't say it's his fault that he isn't big enough. And let's face it, he's right. Foster just doesn't have the explosive athleticism that's required to be a top threequarter. What's worse is that he now seems to be painfully aware of this; he is desperate to get rid of the ball every time it comes into his hands, even when he has space to run into.
I'm not one of those who thinks that because Foster is a good looking lad and owns a hairdressers he doesn't concentrate enough on his rugby. To me he's always come across as dedicated and eager to improve, but the sad truth is he just doesn't have the raw materials.
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| Quote: No1 Saint "Me grow up ? Seriously it's not criticism its TRUE. You need to just accept it , Foster will never make it at Saints'"
Dave K was criticising Foster because of his physique. That is indeed true. He was doing that. I responded to that.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "You're spouting the same stuff as some fans on here have, which is fundamentally to do with his physique, something he has little control over. Your whole team was a shambles yesterday so it is ridiculous to single him out. He saved your team's bacon in your recent derby match, another game which was on TV.
Oh, and he's pretty quick as you may recall from the drop out he forced in your derby game. The rest of your team just stood around while he was legging it across the pitch.
Fickle fans really do spoil RL.
Not yesterday he didn't. He was just as bad as the rest of them.'"
How have I singled him out? Isn't this a thread about f\Foster, if you want I will talk you through player by player from yesterday, which wont be pretty and I doubt other Saints fans want to hear it?
Ive seen all of Fosters games for Hull and apart from the first game, (where he was decent), every other he has been at best average.
I have sadly watched the derby 4 times and to say that Foster saved our bacon is quiet frankly ridiculous, he wasn't even one of our top players that game, even Mcgoldrick played better than him that game and that says something.
Again i suggest you re-watch yesterdays game as Lineham must have made twice as many yards as Foster, with a lot less errors and penalties.
I'm not sure id you are related to Foster or just like to get your hair cut in his shop, but you really need to watch Foster closely and see he just isnt good enough for a team in Sl who has aspirations of winning something in RL.
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| Quote: Dave K. "How have I singled him out? Isn't this a thread about f\Foster, if you want I will talk you through player by player from yesterday, which wont be pretty and I doubt other Saints fans want to hear it? '"
I didn't say you'd singled him out. I said that the whole team was poor yesterday so to single him out is, frankly, ludicrous. Your team was rubbish and Gentle is fully justified in calling their performance embarrassing. So to come on here calling Foster when your whole team was rubbish undermines your credibility in my book. Neither of your wings performed well yesterday but nor did any member of your team. They were all utterly awful.
And yes, he did save your bacon against KR, and that began with his run across field to secure a drop out, while all the rest of your team looked on in total inaction. He also kicked extremely well that day, enabling you to score more points than KR, and assisted in a try. He also set up a great kick off which KR fumbled. In addition, he executed a terrific try saving tackle, which was one of the best tackles of the game.
I have no idea how he has performed otherwise but having watched FC whenever they have been on TV this season you aren't exactly stand out performers, and weren't so even before Foster was shipped over there.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "I didn't say you'd singled him out. I said that the whole team was poor yesterday so to single him out is, frankly, ludicrous. Your team was rubbish and Gentle is fully justified in calling their performance embarrassing. So to come on here calling Foster when your whole team was rubbish undermines your credibility in my book. Neither of your wings performed well yesterday but nor did any member of your team. They were all utterly awful.
And yes, he did save your bacon against KR, and that began with his run across field to secure a drop out, while all the rest of your team looked on in total inaction. He also kicked extremely well that day, enabling you to score more points than KR, and assisted in a try. He also set up a great kick off which KR fumbled. In addition, he executed a terrific try saving tackle, which was one of the best tackles of the game.
I have no idea how he has performed otherwise but having watched FC whenever they have been on TV this season you aren't exactly stand out performers, and weren't so even before Foster was shipped over there.'"
Not sure were to start? So many wrongs.
So basically I cant come on a thread about Foster and Critcise him, (might as well lock the thread if we can only say positive things about Foster) read the Hull board I have rightly criticised the full team especially the backs, however you are wrong to say that no team member played well as Lynch and Heremia has decent games for Hull.
Basically Foster won the game against Rovers on his own, no credit for Heremia who kicked for Jamie to chase, Manu who made the break to set up Yeamans try. Briscoe try saving tackle on latus which would have put Rovers in the lead, Whiting part in Briscoe try at the end?
Rugby League is a team game and Foster played a good part in helping us win that game, staying he saved us on his own, shows you have never played the game and is a great disservice to all the players who helped us win that game.
No stand out performers for Hull this year, again total rubbish, Whiting, Manu, Lynch and houghton have been outstanding for Hull this year.
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| Quote: Dave K. "Not sure were to start? So many wrongs.
So basically I cant come on a thread about Foster and Critcise him, (might as well lock the thread if we can only say positive things about Foster) read the Hull board I have rightly criticised the full team especially the backs, however you are wrong to say that no team member played well as Lynch and Heremia has decent games for Hull.
Basically Foster won the game against Rovers on his own, no credit for Heremia who kicked for Jamie to chase, Manu who made the break to set up Yeamans try. Briscoe try saving tackle on latus which would have put Rovers in the lead, Whiting part in Briscoe try at the end?
Rugby League is a team game and Foster played a good part in helping us win that game, staying he saved us on his own, shows you have never played the game and is a great disservice to all the players who helped us win that game.
No stand out performers for Hull this year, again total rubbish, Whiting, Manu, Lynch and houghton have been outstanding for Hull this year.'"
I did not see the Hull game yesterday, but the game against Wigan it still looked like he had wobbles in defence.
It maybe that RL is not his natural home. In RU he would have less work to do and his finishing and kicking would put him in his natural home.
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