Chris Hill or Andy Lynch would have been good replcements for Jammer.

We've obviously still got a bit of desire when it comes to transfers, given we seem to have really gone for Manu, but one swallow doesn't make a summer and all that.

Do you mind sharing what that way might be (As there are plenty)?

Warrington players are paid in hugs, sugarcandy and fluffy kittens instead of money - that's how they cram so many more apparently expensive players into their squad than anyone else can somehow manage to.

At least Wigan were open and transparent in getting the laws of the game formally bent to allow them to keep Tomkins...

Whatever the reason Chris Hill chose to come to Warrington, was he on anyone else's radar, we have a good relationship with Leigh, we were prepared to pay top dollar, Chris wanted to play for us and TS (or vice versa if you like)? He has been outstanding from Day 1 and would have been a great signing for any top SL side.

The Leigh speccies were right and it is a 'risk' that has never materialised.

A decent thread that has inevitably transcended into a Salary Cap none debate. Until proven otherwise, 'mudslingery' at its best.

I'm sure that one of the 'people in the know' on here said that we were going to sign him, but didn't want to pay a fee and then that's when you swooped in?

Massive error if that is true....although when we were talking about him on here and redvee last season I was sceptical of him I must admit....turned into a player with great potential.



That's the other thread tbf.

All the same sort of stuff about Warrington was being said on this forum a year ago until a Saints' fan did a player by player comparison of the squads and illustrated that the wage bill would be about the same.

If you sign an "out of contract" Michael Shenton and beat five other clubs to his signature you are going to be paying a higher slary than you would if you bought Ryan Atkins out of his Wakefield contract when there was over 12 months left. It would cost you a transfer fee but that doesn't go against the salary cap. Its all about value for money.

If Warrington use all these "cheats" around the salary cap how did Saints out bid us for Puletua?

The fundamental issue with Wigan's pack is, their hooker isn't much cop.

Watch out, that's sacrilidge to some Wigan supporting posters. We're often told of his obvious superiority to Roby which is clearly demostrated by him being on the winning side against saints.
He is clearly world class in every department.

He's no micky higham, though.

Super League Grand Final win/loss record

SaintsChallenge Cup Final win/loss record in the SL era

Saints[i2[/i [/sizeplayoff games [size[iever[/i[/size!!!!!! Not 2 last season. 2 [iever[/i!!!!! [sizeEVER[/size!!!!! We've won... loads.... (Can't be d working it out).

Any analysis of who is the loser club of the 2 is hardly difficult or inconclusive, is it?

I know you support a basketcase embarassing pitiful little ****ant nonentity of a club that we've frankly become bored of crushing contemptuously beneath our wheels at Saints for decades now and need a little bit of self-delusion to get over your enormous inferiority complex etc. but at least keep it vaguely within the bounds of credibility...

I know you're worthy of nought but derision, pity and ignorance but sod it I'll fight the troll on this one just for a laugh, eh?

Wow, man, you need to de-stress. I have heard of some massage parlors but I have never frequented them myslef, I recommend you give them a go. Tell me, between me and you, are you so ed off cause Wire gave you a good old thrashing two weeks ago or is it that you can't even beat Wakefield now?

Ancient history means all to a player who has only got a 10, maybe 15 year career. Wire has won 3 trophies in 3 years. Saints have 3 trophies in, what, 5 or six years? WArrington are in the challenge cup final this year. Saints are struggling to beat any of their nearest rivals and teams such as Bradford and Wakefeild... and you want to dispute who is the healthier and appealing club?

If we are going off ancient history then why aren't Cas and Widnes signing Benji and Billy from the NRL??? or even Tomkins and Hill??? cause you can win more at Wire and Wigan.

The sun has set on Saints (very brief) period of dominance. Going to old trafford and losing loses it's charm after the 5th time. You must remember what it is like to be in a challenge cup final, right? Imagine playing in one. No chance of anyone in a red V doing that this year, or even next.

Isn't there a certain irony about Saints' fans accusing Wire of breaking the salary cap by use of inducements, when its well known that Saints have 'attracted' young players to their academy by taking them on trips to Australia??....