Me agreeing completely with SaintsFan shock! Maybe I'm wrong about Shenton after all then....

Perhaps. But Turner now is better than Shenton is now, in my opinion. And Turner should improve in the coming years, whereas I can only see Shenton going one way. Its a no-brainer for me.

I've defended Shenton over his time here from some unfair criticism but it's pretty clear he's a decent, largely ordinary player - albeit very committed - and doesn't justify the massive salary we signed him on. He hasn't got that bit of magic dust a great centre needs and he never will have.

Agreed, but how many GB centres are there in the league at the moment not already on big contracts that do? I still say that Shenton, if we can get him fit and back to his Cas form in a well-structured team is about the best option out there for the next few years.

indeed, if the boot was on the other foot and Shenton was desperate to leave, we would be expecting some compensation for the remaining 12 months of his contract.

A lot is made about individual players' commitment to their contracts and clubs, but its a 2 way street and the club should honour its agreement with Shenton, or at the least compensate him for the lost earnings he will suffer. Its not his fault that the club are over paying him, it doesnt look like there is a lack of commitment or effort in his performances - it just isn't really working out for him here.

He defended well in the Grand final, but to say his defence is excellent is over the top IMO. He is prone to jumping out of the line and also gets stood up every now and then (see Hoffman at DW last year, Turner at LP this). As I've said, this wouldn't be a big issue, but since he is here on a test centre's wage and isn't doing anything in attack, I don't think it's good enough.

That and the fact that he is also Andrew Pierce of the Daily Mail (oft seen on Sky News reviewing the papers ...)

You be the judge https://www.irisprize.org/creo_files/upload/jury/andrew_pierce_2010.jpg" >

PEIRCE

Keith Senior is still without a club ...

You've cited two examples of him jumping out of the line but I can't remember the last time he did it. I think he is very solid in defence. He often rescued Gaskell last season in Gaskell's early days when he was a bit of a turnstile.

You do Shenton a disservice by criticising his defence. That is one element of his game which is very good.

Wonder if this will resurrect the JL rumour mill once more......?

nO NO NO!

Any mention of that name playing for Saints and it's Auto ban time.



JL is another Meninga.

Damn I said it, well beware go take a holiday....

Sometimes, his defence has looked excellent.I remember last year when Whelham was terrorising Gaskell's eveytime he got the ball, but one time he came up against Shenton and tried it, you knew 100% he was not going to get the out side. This part of his defence seemed very robust until Turner did him earlier this year.
He has, however, missed a handful of god awful tackles by flapping with his arms (the Hoffman one standing out) which stick in peoples minds and he can rush up a every so often.

sounds like brown will be bringing someone from huddersfield with him if shentons being allowed to leave

Why when Jordan Turner is signing?

i think you find turners not the answer 8 half decent games in 3 seasons i know which player i would prefer