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Been saying from the very start of the season we have no leadership and no plan to our game. Think this will not happen this season we will be like rabbits in the headlights when we play the "bigger games". Can only imagine Roby filling the role but he's carrying the team already and might effect his game.

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OK, what would everyone's team be going forward for the rest of the season? I am really stuck with this one. Too many cooks are spoiling the broth.

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Quote: Judder Man "Been saying from the very start of the season we have no leadership and no plan to our game. Think this will not happen this season we will be like rabbits in the headlights when we play the "bigger games". Can only imagine Roby filling the role but he's carrying the team already and might effect his game.'"



And that my friend comes from poor coaching.

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Quote: St pete "I just can't work his methods out and I don't think the players can either.

I never ever thought I'd say this but "bring back potter"

Simmons is worst coach I've seen take charge of saints.'"


I agree, but he's too stubborn to admitt he's wrong. I hate hearing "it'll come good at the end of the year" not everyone can do a Leeds. The one that gets me most is "he got us to a final" last years team picked itself!

Much more of this and we should cut our losses and send Mr. Charisma back to Australia.

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Quote: Saint Simon "about 3rd in the league instead of 7th (could be 8th later)'"

Leeds finished in 5th but won the Grand Final.

We're in the fifth round. We were 7th at this time last season too. So what?

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Quote: SaintsFan "Leeds finished in 5th but won the Grand Final.

We're in the fifth round. We were 7th at this time last season too. So what?'"



I hope Royce don't read that, he'll come up with idea of resting every player until the 2nd half of the season.

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Quote: SaintsFan "And where would we have been today without a back on the bench?'"


We could have gone with Flanagan at 9. Simple. If Roby had not got injured then Flanagan would have been used elsewhere.

Quote: SaintsFan "OK, what would everyone's team be going forward for the rest of the season? I am really stuck with this one. Too many cooks are spoiling the broth.'"


I'd try:

Lomax
Foster
Shenton
Meli
Makinson
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Roby
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Wilkin

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Quote: Saddened! "Hohaia has no experience of playing scrum half. Lomax has more gametime there than he does.'"


He might have no experience of putting the ball into an uncontested scrum. But he has years of invaluable experience at the fulcrum of play in the pressure cooker environment of the NRL and for NZ. Something neither Gaskell nor Lomax could even dream of.

The fact that you deliberately choose to ignore this and slag off a player whose barely strung 80 mins of play together in SL says a lot about your credibility - or lack thereof.

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Quote: Carlos Alberto "OK, what would everyone's team be going forward for the rest of the season? I am really stuck with this one. Too many cooks are spoiling the broth.'"


What he needs to do now, pick what he feels is his strongest side and stick with it, let's let the players play together and get the understanding back.

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Quote: Mugwump "He might have no experience of putting the ball into an uncontested scrum. But he has years of invaluable experience at the fulcrum of play in the pressure cooker environment of the NRL and for NZ. Something neither Gaskell nor Lomax could even dream of.

The fact that you deliberately choose to ignore this and slag off a player whose barely strung 80 mins of play together in SL says a lot about your credibility - or lack thereof.'"


He only ever played for NZ because of his utility value, he was never good enough to start if he had stuck to a specific position. The fact that he's spent ten years at one club and was never a regular starter in his favourite position says it all.

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Quote: St pete "And that my friend comes from poor coaching.'"



I think its a bit more than that St Pete, its bad planning by the club, unless they are thinking we can have another season of transition until one comes to the surface.
The only hope we have is if Lomax and Gaskell grab the game by the scruff of the neck and dominate, feel sorry for Lomax he doesn,t really know what his true role is, we are just playing off individual plays.
I,m wondering if the coaching pair are actually singing from the same hymn sheet, as this rotation, substitution and swapping players is not give us any chance of consistency.

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Quote: Saddened! "He only ever played for NZ because of his utility value, he was never good enough to start if he had stuck to a specific position. The fact that he's spent ten years at one club and was never a regular starter in his favourite position says it all.'"



I think he was only saying he liked playing in the halves to try and get the gig here.

He's been fullback for most of his time.

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These are all knee-jerk reactions, I can remember a thread after you got beat by Hull in the first game last season and had a huge uproar stating it wasn't a knee jerk but a reaction to an obvious decline. You will improve, every team has rough patches, if you go on to win the next 4 games threads like this will be laughed at. There is a long way to go, if you were playing like this with 3 weeks to go then fair enough, but at this stage it doesn't count for much.

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Quote: Saddened! "He only ever played for NZ because of his utility value, he was never good enough to start if he had stuck to a specific position. The fact that he's spent ten years at one club and was never a regular starter in his favourite position says it all.'"


Everyone is entitled to an opinion. But that's a load of e!

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Quote: Saddened! "He only ever played for NZ because of his utility value, he was never good enough to start if he had stuck to a specific position. The fact that he's spent ten years at one club and was never a regular starter in his favourite position says it all.'"


I could say the same about James Roby who for the majority of his career was never good enough to start.

But anyway:

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2002–2011 New Zealand Pld. 29 Tr. 11

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