Think Perry needs to play every week to get his fitness up. Same for TP at the moment, so next week it will be either clough or La frank who gets a rest.

Wow nice to be able to say that rather than, who is gonna play next week with all these injuries???

And of course speed is what we all look for in a prop.

It's not what people look at in a prop but props need to be able to move faster than what perry is at the moment. He practically stopped before he gets going. Possibly down to no game time but only time will tell.

Thought Perry looked good last night, would like to see longer stints from him though, seems like he's never on the field for longer than 10-15 mins.

Why on earth would we have needed more pre-season games? 1 is now way too many frankly. We have another 25 of them still to go this season to ease players into fitness and form before we hit any competitive games - I think that's plenty.

Looks overweight to me. It probably goes along way to explaining why he's so slow and lethargic. Plenty more first team action should work the chub off him, then he'll settle down.

I thought you didn't watch our match on Friday night?

If you watch him against hull kr, he does a lot of unneeded running that obviously makes him tired. In defence he's running all over the place like headless chicken and chases every little half break.

It's good to see him do this but he needs to just keep his kind and save his energy.

My thoughts exactly when he loses a bit of middle timber gets more match fit then he will return to something like his normal self with confidence.
He,s never going to Be a Graham with loads of carries and metres, Perry,s forte is a good off load in heavy traffic, hopefully we will see that sooner than later.
If he suffers no injuries I,m expecting him to be good value by Easter.

What's that got to do with anything?

I think we have been "lucky" so far in our opening games in that we have not met any team with obvious form like Wigan, Warrington and London last year. Think our yardstick might be Catalans in a couple of weeks, we need Tony P, Perry, LMS and Franki to up there game by then.

Totally agree

At the match I thought he was average, but when I watched it again on sky I didnt think he did to bad. Give him time

I agree with that to a point, but also it's possible Royce looked at the fixture list, (potential at that point) and thought we can build up through the opening games rather than have a front loaded pre-season. I was worried after hearing about Widnes that we lacked pre-season. But after Salford we are not a million miles off and for me the front row is just a bit unfit at the moment, from lack of pre-season.

Had our first 4 games been Leeds, Wigan, Warrington, Catalan then Royce may have said we need to be 100% on day one. As it is fitness can be built up through our first 3 or 4 games.

Perry was blowing and moving slow, but he was still also offloading in heavy traffic and we need our backs and Roby to be ready to run off that. TP too had some good runs but could not get his arms loose.

I've read what Pete has said about Perry being an NRL SOO player when he came to us. There is one thing that is true quality lasts, so if its just about his fitness levels, they can be recovered with effort and game time. Would hope TP and Perry play week in and week out as they both need the games and the other props are rotated for now. TP and Perry can have a week off on rotation when they are running at max.