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| Quote: newton warrior "After reading your replies and the thread about your Finances, it wouldn't surprise me if you are the idiot running the marketing of the club !!!
With that attitude it will probably be that a number of the seats NEVER get used full stop.
This season you can pay on the day for £22 at St Widnes or £25 on the day anywhere in the North or South. As I said earlier, your season ticket price for next season in the North and South Stands £290 works at £22.30 per game.
Either the prices will go up even more for next season or you are a fool to buy one as its cheaper to go and buy a ticket for each game.
If you think that Saints will get 13k home fans every game at them prices, you are in cuckoo land and will be in even more financial trouble !!!'"
You are deliberately picking the worse case scenario! Early bird for the North and South stands until end of Nov is £20.07 and the renewal price is £17.84 which is exactly what they promised us last year!!
For the west stand renewals its £13.77 per game which is outstanding value. for a family of 5 renewal in the same stand work out a £6 per person per game!
Even in seated in the north or south stands its only £9.95 per person per game when renewed or £11.17 if early bird.
Given these prices £23-£25 would seem fair for a late SEATED match day ticket.
Who knows what our average crowd will be - you don't and I don't?
Clearly that figure will be crucial for the club; personally I think it will be in excess of 12K but not as high as 13K in the first season.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Why do you need a "family area"
Why not do as we do at Wigan and just have an offer on tickets for families, with pricing to suit kids ages?'"
Perhaps they have learned from Wigans mistake in doing this, as i recall many adult Wigan fans knowing that an automated card entry system was in operation, rather than ticket books, went ahead and bought junior season tickets for themselves. Thereby getting a seasons worth of viewing for around £20
I understand Wigan have now put systems in place to mitigate this.
Having dedicated family areas also helps segregate the young kids into a special area, this prevents other fans from being annoyed by having fidgeting screaming kids sat next to them. As well as offering some protection for the kids in terms of being exposed to course language or drunken adult fans.
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| Quote: gateaux "I doubt all the West stand will be season tickets, some will probably be kept back for match day purchases. Those tickets and the East stand will probably be around the £22 mark for advanced purchases as will the family seats. Then £25 ish for advanced tickets for the North and South stands. I don't think those prices would be unreasonable or any different than you would expect to pay at most grounds now.'"
If the west stand holds 3800, and 3800 people want season tickets then Saints should sell every available space.
That then creates supply shortages and thereby creates a demand in later years.
Also if the west stand sold out with just season ticket holders, then Saints would be able to tell home fans to purchase match day standing tickets in the east stand. This would not really be an issue for most matches due to the small number of away fans that clubs normally bring. Realistically only Wigan, Warrington and Widnes will bring more than a 1000 fans to the new stadium next season. The likes of Leeds and Hull will probably bring between 500 and 1000. With the remaining clubs coming in a few taxis.
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| Quote: The Chair Maker "
Having dedicated family areas also helps segregate the young kids into a special area, this prevents other fans from being annoyed by having fidgeting screaming kids sat next to them. As well as offering some protection for the kids in terms of being exposed to course language or drunken adult fans.'" ]
that's the main reasons we decided to move to the family area! That and the fact the seats where cheaper and we could get free seats for the children.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Why do you need a "family area"'"
We aren't going to have a 'family area'.
We are going to have the Typhoo Family Area.
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| For me the match day prices need to be a bit more fluid with next year's target to try and fill the ground on as many occasions as possible.
I`d be making the wire and wigan games and first game a premium ticket and making at least one or both of the quins or catalans games and any duff challenge cup games very cheap 10 - 15 all tickets.
In fact if you think we can pretty much guarantee a full house for the first game I`d definately ask for one of the lesser supported teams.
But all that aside the cost for a family to "walk up" to their first game in RL is expensive compared to other leisure activities.
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| Quote: Sporties "For me the match day prices need to be a bit more fluid with next year's target to try and fill the ground on as many occasions as possible.
I`d be making the wire and wigan games and first game a premium ticket and making at least one or both of the quins or catalans games and any duff challenge cup games very cheap 10 - 15 all tickets.
In fact if you think we can pretty much guarantee a full house for the first game I`d definately ask for one of the lesser supported teams.
But all that aside the cost for a family to "walk up" to their first game in RL is expensive compared to other leisure activities.'"
Yes if you look back at the HJ opening for dire vs wakey, it turned out to be their biggest ever gate so far at the stadium. In fact they sold too many tickets and the capacity had to be reduced slightly thereafter as it was deemed unsafe.
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| Interesting points raised a question though ? having allocated about 4000 in the away terrace and having called it the away end. would saints allow home fans in there ? i would like to think so if needed as certain games ie the quins it would look dead, although the question then is would extra saints fans want to watch this game, just a thought ?
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| Quote: cement city saint "Interesting points raised a question though ? having allocated about 4000 in the away terrace and having called it the away end. would saints allow home fans in there ? i would like to think so if needed as certain games ie the quins it would look dead, although the question then is would extra saints fans want to watch this game, just a thought ?'"
Of course home fans are allowed in, just like they are at Widnes if the away team isn't Warrington or Wigan.
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| My point being with it being called the away terrace and going off the theory that the west stand would probably be almost full if not full with saints season ticket holders, would they just allow saints fans in to stand at that end not knowing how many away fans would be turning up ? it doesnt affect me im at the west end
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| Quote: cement city saint "My point being with it being called the away terrace and going off the theory that the west stand would probably be almost full if not full with saints season ticket holders, would they just allow saints fans in to stand at that end not knowing how many away fans would be turning up ? it doesnt affect me im at the west end'"
The club will have an idea in advance which teams are likely to sell out the away end (Wigan and Warrington basically!) so will be able to sell tickets to Saints fans aswell, especially tickets for walk up fans.
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| Thats good then because i do think we will have lots more fans wanting to try the experience and it would be crazy turning them away when theres an empty end. As iv said the interest at work from people who never go a game is very high, its going to be a great season
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| Quote: cement city saint "My point being with it being called the away terrace and going off the theory that the west stand would probably be almost full if not full with saints season ticket holders, would they just allow saints fans in to stand at that end not knowing how many away fans would be turning up ? it doesnt affect me im at the west end'"
IIRC the 'away terrace' at Warrington does not have season tickets sold for it. A South Stand (home terrace) season ticket holder can exhange their ticket for an 'away terrace' ticket if they want to, apart from in the odd game (Wigan or Saints - although we have allowed this the last two years).
You may find that Saints go with a similar approach.
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| Did a count last night of allocated tickets sold for North and South stands and came up with a total of 3853. The North was 2553 and South was 1300.
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| Quote: roader "Did a count last night of allocated tickets sold for North and South stands and came up with a total of 3853. The North was 2553 and South was 1300.'"
Not great numbers. They are unlikely to sell that many more now with the ever present grey cloud that is our GF record looming over us.
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