Nicely put.

Wasn't he a <Ray French mode> former Blackbrook amateur?

That's Saints feeder club isn't it?

I never realised he was a Golborner, what school did he attend?

Edmond Arrowsmith Ashton.

Ah Catholic school, that's why not heard much of him regards being a Golborne lad.

Jamie was born in Whiston hospital as is the norm for most people from St.Helens.
He also lives in Haydock. He used to practise on King Georges playing field as a kid.
He went to Eddie Arrows as is normal for catholic kids from Haydock.
Mugwump and Mclennan from these boards went to school with his mum, which makes them feel REALLY old.

Jamie has acknowledged that as a stupid kid he followed Wigan, but as he matured he had an epiphany and chose the path to salvation.
Sadly there are always some in every generation, who are lost to those who play on the dark side of the hill.

No chance. Without his kicking he is just another decent winger.

I agree he scored a fantastic try at Leeds but that one try made a name for him really. It was a great try but that doesn't make you a great player. A winger in the NRL did something even better, it won't get him in the Aus team.

I think Makinson will be the better winger.

We have Pat on one wing, surely you wouldn't take Foster over Pat?
We have Charnley on the other, I doubt Foster could have scored the try that Charnley scored at wire. Charnley has that xfactor which Foster lacks as just a winger. Unless we have a goalkicking crisis, I would stay well clear.

Makinson is a better winger than Jamie and so is Meli, Gardner and the ain't much in it between Armstrong and Jamie but what Jamie brings to the team is points, he's a good finisher, reads the game very well and is also a great goal kicker!

He's a valuable member to the first team because he's a points machine. Points wins games.

He's also a match winner and has already won many games for saints already.

Also, just think if we didn't have Jamie this year I'd say we'd be 4th or 5th in the league.

and thats what a difference a good kicker can make. He'd be worth it if he was an average superleague player, but IMO hes better than that

Hes a good finisher, good goal kicker and is pretty safe although he's looked bit dodgy under kicks over last few weeks.

He's not a great super league player and will only ever be a average winger but he's a points machine.

Just a shame he can't beat a man or have genuine pace.

I love it when people say "If he wasn't such a good kicker he'd be an average winger"

Ok but HE IS a good kicker so what's your argument.

Briers would only be an average half back if he didn't read the game like he does now.
Cunningham would have been an average hooker if he wasn't so strong.
Offiah would have been an average winger if he wasn't has quick as everyone else

To the Pie fans aiming slights at Foster, *cough* Botica *cough*

The is a difference in the comparisons you've made above to be honest. Goal kicking and playing are two completely different things.

It is possible to beca great goal kicker yet a average player.

Against Wakefield if my memory serves me well.