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| Quote: Saddened! "I'm not, I'm just saying it's hard to really judge how far ahead this Wigan side are when we never seem to get a team in form and good condition going up against them.
Gleeson has been replaced, Roberts is pants and surely won't be registered now?'"
Wigan won fair and square, no ifs or buts about it. Despite a front of 'praise' for Wigan you are slowly developing excuses to why saints lost. Injuries etc are part of the game, trying to analyse the what ifs is purely speculation dictated by the poster, basically it's totally irrelevant.
Wigan have beaten saints for the past 3 games and if it wasn't for the draw in Wales it would have been 5 in a row now. Stick to the facts, once again Wigan are the dominate side, and yes it feels bloody good|
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| Saddened you really are one sad person.
You say you have praised Wigan, rubbish you have not said one good thing. All you have done is whinge about your injuries, even Wires injuries. Grow up and be gracious in defeat.
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| Quote: Saddened! "I'm not, I'm just saying it's hard to really judge how far ahead this Wigan side are when we never seem to get a team in form and good condition going up against them.
Gleeson has been replaced, Roberts is pants and surely won't be registered now?'"
That's got to be a joke hasn't it?
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| Saints had plenty of the possession! but you have to turn it into points, it is no use saying if such a player has played well they didn't, Wigan's defence under that pressure in the first half looked so firm, though I would Fine Sam's Brother for not putting the ball down over the line, why force a pass that was not needed!
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| Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "That's got to be a joke hasn't it?'"
Why? You've signed an international forward and a SOO forward since he left.
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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Stick to the facts, once again Wigan are the dominate side, and yes it feels bloody good|'"
It's about time after all those years of thrashings by saints and slightly above average league finishings.
But it won't last forever. Uber coach mcguire is leaving, other teams will come to the fore, players will be injured/leave.
In the current climate, the top teams seem to go through 2-5 year hot streaks when they in and around the trophies, grand finals, and top 2 finishings before slipping back into the pack.
Wigan will be a force, but only for the next 2-4 years before another team takes the reigns and the cycle is complete.
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| Quote: gray "Saddened you really are one sad person.
You say you have praised Wigan, rubbish you have not said one good thing. All you have done is whinge about your injuries, even Wires injuries. Grow up and be gracious in defeat.'"
I don't think any of you have actually read any of what I've posted. Where have I said we lost today because of injuries for example?
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44308_1279480467.gif Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
"You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more"
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| Quote: jaybs "Saints had plenty of the possession! but you have to turn it into points, it is no use saying if such a player has played well they didn't, Wigan's defence under that pressure in the first half looked so firm, though I would Fine Sam's Brother for not putting the ball down over the line, why force a pass that was not needed!'"
Exactly, no point in having 95% completion rate and a whopping amount of ball if you don't do anything with it.
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| Quote: marcel "It's about time after all those years of thrashings by saints and slightly above average league finishings.
But it won't last forever. Uber coach mcguire is leaving, other teams will come to the fore, players will be injured/leave.
In the current climate, the top teams seem to go through 2-5 year hot streaks when they in and around the trophies, grand finals, and top 2 finishings before slipping back into the pack.
Wigan will be a force, but only for the next 2-4 years before another team takes the reigns and the cycle is complete.'"
Only time will tell. But like I said, we are once again the dominate force. Roll on the double.
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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "trying to analyse the what ifs is purely speculation dictated by the poster, basically it's totally irrelevant.'"
Quote: Last Son of Wigan "if it wasn't for the draw in Wales it would have been 5 in a row now.'"
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
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| Quote: St pete "Exactly, no point in having 95% completion rate and a whopping amount of ball if you don't do anything with it.'"
If Wigan had that same 95% completion rate then they would have won 20+ points, and in truth had Joel decided to put the ball over the line instead of passing it could well have been that anyway.
I haven't seen the Sam no try yet on video (my Sky + didn't record) but it looked a very harsh decision whilst on the ground.
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| I don't find much wrong with what Saddened! said, to be honest. We have had a fair whack of luck with injuries at this stage of the season, whereas the start of the season was a struggle thanks to certain injuries, in particular Pat Richards.
Our first half defence was incredible, but you have to admit there were many shocking decisions that went against us, especially your chargedown that didn't reset the tackle count. That was the joke of the year.
Full credit to all of Saints, with the exception of Pryce. I'm not going to praise that thug, he went out determined to take heads off, and didn't get pulled up for it once. After he put a lot of effort in trying to break our line in the first half, he was anonymous in the second. Everyone else did you very proud, though, especially Foster and Lomax.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "I haven't seen the Sam no try yet on video (my Sky + didn't record) but it looked a very harsh decision whilst on the ground.'"
Classic obstruction. Dummy runner runs straight into the line into a defender who wasn't watching him but moving towards the ball.
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| I think we were good but by no means near perfect. I don't know where Saddened! has got the 95% completion figure from, but the BBC had us at around 70% at half time, and it got worse in the second half.
As St Pete and others have said, we matched them up front but weren't clinical enough. Ian Millward had it spot on when he said that we were too lateral. We made good inroads when we worked the short balls round the ruck, but overall we focussed too heavily on shipping it out to the left before we'd laid a proper platform.
Credit to Wigan, though. They clearly enjoy defending, and that's something that really works for them in the big matches. They also work flat out for 80 minutes. They didn't get everything their own way today but they hung in there and took their chances when they came. We, on the other hand, had a soft ten minutes, much like we did at the DW on Good Friday, and it ultimately cost us the game. Compared to recent performances against Wigan and Wire, however, there were some encouraging signs.
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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Only time will tell. But like I said, we are once again the dominate force. Roll on the double.'"
Time will tell? lol.
It's inevitable. This isn't the 1980's.
You'll have 4/5 hot years, then slip back into the pack abit. If you want to dream of total domination for the next decade that's fine, it just means you'll end up humbled.
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