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Actually, having just watched the match back on TV I take everything I said back about everyone in every thread on the match, except Meli.

Our goal line defence was pretty poor but other than that and the dropped ball, we were so damn close to beating Warrington it was unreal. No worries about the rest of the season where they are concerned so long as we bring that degree of intensity to the game and remember to keep hold of/catch the ball.

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I fail to see where people are seeing the Eastmond can offer more to the team than Gaskell. Eastmond has been well pretty annonymous since getting a few sub games, not saying he's played badly, but hardly offered alot either.

It seams a couple of losses and a scapegoat is needed.

A scapegoat is nearly as welcome as a solution to a problem.

Seen many a half back have kicks charged down and not get the heave ho for it.

Anyone remember Tommy God get the ball stolen, by Alfie and a try resulted.

Funny there was no call for his head after that match.

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Gaskell had a couple of lapses of concentration which exploded in his hands. But aside from this I thought he played pretty well. His distribution was way better than Eastmond's.

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Quote: Mugwump "Gaskell had a couple of lapses of concentration which exploded in his hands. But aside from this I thought he played pretty well. His distribution was way better than Eastmond's.'"



Exactly. Gaskell is far from the finished product, but he still had good touches during the game and still gave Wire things to defend and think about. He does some good work making an extra man in attack, and with another year he will improve his positional sense in the defensive line.

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Quote: 1984saints "whats eastmond done to be pick before gaskell '"


Nothing, it's not about picking Eastmond, it's about resting Gaskell. He's a young kid who could have his confidence dented. I'm just suggesting managing his introduction to first team duties a bit, kind of like Smith did with Myler at Warrington. He dropped/rested him for pretty much all the big games, including the cup final I seem to remember.

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Quote: Saddened! "Nothing, it's not about picking Eastmond, it's about resting Gaskell. He's a young kid who could have his confidence dented. I'm just suggesting managing his introduction to first team duties a bit, kind of like Smith did with Myler at Warrington. He dropped/rested him for pretty much all the big games, including the cup final I seem to remember.'"


Thing is would resting him, improve the team. Leon and Wheeler are not ready, Moore or Wilkin would be an option, but that would weaken the pack.

So yeh we could play Eastmond, but I just fear going back to the early round. If he does not perform how long will the fans give him in a game before they get on his back? I'm not saying is dead certain but do we want to risk it.

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Quote: bewareshadows "Thing is would resting him, improve the team. Leon and Wheeler are not ready, Moore or Wilkin would be an option, but that would weaken the pack.

So yeh we could play Eastmond, but I just fear going back to the early round. If he does not perform how long will the fans give him in a game before they get on his back? I'm not saying is dead certain but do we want to risk it.'"


Kyle hasn't done badly since he was brought back in. His defensive effort is good and he's still a fantastically talented player.

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Quote: Saddened! "Kyle hasn't done badly since he was brought back in. His defensive effort is good and he's still a fantastically talented player.'"



Yeh not badly, but he's not been in the middle so has not had the focus of Gaskell or Lomax. In the end Royce will decide that in Training, but I would be surprised not to see Gaskell start next week.

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Quote: Saddened! "Nothing, it's not about picking Eastmond, it's about resting Gaskell. He's a young kid who could have his confidence dented. I'm just suggesting managing his introduction to first team duties a bit, '"

Presumably that is why it is always Gaskell who goes off for the last 10 to 15 minutes. It isn't ideal but without Wheeler and Pryce we don't have a lot of choice.

Quote: Saddened! "kind of like Smith did with Myler at Warrington. He dropped/rested him for pretty much all the big games, including the cup final I seem to remember.'"

He did. Myler didn't like it but when interviewed said he thought Smith didn't think he was ready. Is Gaskell ready for the big games? Well, who knows, but the last two games sure will have knocked the edges off! Taught him a lot I should think, in a very short space of time.

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Quote: Saddened! "Kyle hasn't done badly since he was brought back in. His defensive effort is good and he's still a fantastically talented player.'"


That's why I want Royce to give him a couple of games in the middle, with Gaskell on the bench. If there is a chance of Eastmond turning in one of those explosive performances it might be worth the risk. There is too much pressure on young Gaskell to perform for 60+ mins in a match. Lomax is OK he has the right temperament to handle the pressure a bit more.

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Quote: Saddened! "Kyle hasn't done badly since he was brought back in. His defensive effort is good and he's still a fantastically talented player.'"


Strange thing is I think the biggest damage, concerning Eastmond, caused this year to Saints will be that he will not want to go back there after he struggles at rugby union (which I think he will as not be suited to any position or physicallity of the breakdown). I can see him coming to Warrington in 2013 as Briers' replacement.

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we wont want eastmond back gaskell and lomax will be both better then him

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Quote: Paul Youane "I can see him coming to Warrington in 2013 as Briers' replacement.'"

Aye. Joining James Graham, Tony Puletua and Jon Wilkin no doubt!

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Quote: 1984saints "we wont want eastmond back gaskell and lomax will be both better then him'"


Up so late on a Sunday before a schoolday; I'm disgusted.

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