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I think the fact he plays full 80s is seen as a weakness in Grahams stats.

It is almost like if he is playing poorly because he is knackered, people assume he is a rubbish prop. and then when you investigate his stats, some people think well of course he is so many carries and so many metres, he is the go to guy and plays 80 mins (unlike every other prop)

I think he is a great prop, however he really needs to improve in some areas (the biggest one being his anger) I hope the aussies use him right because ,from what I have seen, Sts haven't been.

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Quote: saint b "Thank you for that, much better

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James Graham is an excellent workhorse prop with a good offload. He's a proud, determined lad who wants to win, can't fault him for that. On Friday he was part of a beaten pack but he was not individually at fault, he was targeted, along with Roby, and pretty much shut down.

He does have a petulant streak that could see him in trouble if he carries that on at the Doggies. Would I have had him in a Wigan shirt? Absolutely, I believe Shaun Wane could have helped him temper his tongue and channel it on the pitch.

Good luck at the Doggies lad, go learn some more and really do it for England.

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Even as a Wigan fan, I think James Graham is out of this world. The only irritating thing is that every time he goes into a tackle, he looked at Alibert appealing for something. He should just get on with it, he's a fantastic player

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Quote: WigansForeignLegion "James Graham is an excellent workhorse prop with a good offload. He's a proud, determined lad who wants to win, can't fault him for that. On Friday he was part of a beaten pack but he was not individually at fault, he was targeted, along with Roby, and pretty much shut down.

He does have a petulant streak that could see him in trouble if he carries that on at the Doggies. Would I have had him in a Wigan shirt? Absolutely, I believe Shaun Wane could have helped him temper his tongue and channel it on the pitch.

Good luck at the Doggies lad, go learn some more and really do it for England.'"



Correct Nick! I rate him too, bit of a big fanny at times but id have him at Wigan all day long!
Not sure about the do it for England bit but hey, besta luck to him!

Absolutely brilliant thread this, ive chortled my way through these 3 pages tremendously! That little lad that got banned had me rolling icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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I'm not trolling, i'm not trying to force debate, just stating opinion. the main thing I have against him is the dummy spitting. It stands out so much to me that he doesn't seem to do anything else.

I seriously do hope that the Aussies teach him to can that, and hone in on what he can do on the field... If they can, he might, just might give me something to eat my words about come the internationals...

Covering his ears in the Grand Final last year is the biggest standing in my memory of him, and just made me wonder if he expected a Tea Party rather than 71.5k people, fireworks and a big show...

we'll see that oz makes of him...

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Quote: Tony Stark "I do, you generally keep things quiet interesting, like rogues. You can't ban Saddo. If his tongue was any further in his cheek it would be touching his ear. He also provides me with more ammunition than the R.O.F.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "You can't ban Saddo. If his tongue was any further in his cheek it would be touching his ear. He also provides me with more ammunition than the R.O.F.'"




He is no worse than you! You are two faced while he is open.

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Quote: stantheman "He is no worse than you! You are two faced while he is open.'"



Eh??????

Either I've missed the point by a country mile or you have missed rouges by the same distance.


For what it's worth, I think there will be one or 2 more matches against Wigan. If the table end's up as it is now, that's almost a 100% certainty.

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Quote: saint b ", Aussie clubs dont sign bad english players.'"


worrincy,mathers,thorman,sibbit?

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Quote: Captain13 "Correct Nick! I rate him too, bit of a big fanny at times but id have him at Wigan all day long!
Not sure about the do it for England bit but hey, besta luck to him!

Absolutely brilliant thread this, ive chortled my way through these 3 pages tremendously! That little lad that got banned had me rolling

That was a young lad?

The mouth on him was appalling.

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Quote: saint b "Thank you for that, much better

Was this the man on the big screen on Friday who took a big strop half way through the game? icon_wink.gif

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he's got my admiration as a player,always has had that

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Quote: roo67 "worrincy,[sizemathers[/size,thorman,sibbit?'"


Bit unfair that, he was playing out his skin for Leeds, went to Australia and was injured after a handful of matches.

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Quote: WigansForeignLegion "He does have a petulant streak that could see him in trouble if he carries that on at the Doggies. Would I have had him in a Wigan shirt? Absolutely, I believe Shaun Wane could have helped him temper his tongue and channel it on the pitch.'"

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James Graham is all about his 'tongue'. That is who he is. Without the freedom for him to rant and rave to all and sundry on the pitch, his best performances would not have happened.

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