I would agree. I was too busy having a more interesting conversation IRL to be ar$ed!

i'd agree with jonh to be honest. He's been disapointing, yes hes not had amazing service, but that never stopped Gidley or Lyon. Yes we've been spoilt with true world class centres, but he knew the boots he was filling when he came here

And, er, who did they have playing around them? Lomaskell? Andrew Dixon? Matty Ashurst? Purlease! No comparison.

You can't praise Lomax and Gaskell in one hand and then use them as an explanation for shentons bad performances in another

Oh yes I can.

Know why?

They are inexperienced. Lyon et al had experience all around them.

so you are saying that they are no good? I'd have to disagree, in my opinion they are playing better together than eastmond and pryce were last year, its the bench were we are shocking, and in that, i completely agree that ashurst and dixon are never superleague players, and certainly not good enough to wear the V

Lyon had Long, Scully and Vinnie Anderson (I hate this term) playing inside him, compare that to Shentons service. Dont get me wrong, Shenton is not in the same galaxy as Lyon but he is being made to look poorer than he is.

Don't misquote me.

I said they are inexperienced.

Exactly.

I cant stand Shenton, hes in my dream team and has hardly ever scored....

There's no doubt Shenton has been starved of good ball, and hopefully we'll see more of him if things get more settled elsewhere in the side. I must say, though, for someone who was talked up as an excellent defensive centre I've been underwhelmed by this side of his game.

I've been underwhelmed full stop. Looks a very limited player to me, with more than a few defensive errors in his game.

Not a patch on a fit Wheeler IMO.

I though once again Carmont gave Shenton a torrid time on Friday night. For a player nearly a decade older and looking to retire at the end of the year due to injury problems, to run circles around one of our best English centre's doesn't bode well for Shenton's credibility.

Carmont is possibly the best centre in Super League though.

Says a lot about the standard of Super League at the moment doesn't it.

How good would Jamie Lyon look in this league? He wouldn't get a hand laid on him and he'd finish with about 300 tries.