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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "The lads obviously got problems.
Comes from Leigh and plays for Saints.
I agree he needs all the help he can get.'"
Spot on. Hopefully the lad will get a 5 year contract on the back of this latest incident |
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| Quote: TheOtherOne "Spot on. Hopefully the lad will get a 5 year contract on the back of this latest incident'"
 Well if he was a Wiganer all he'd have to do is sniff a few lines before a game then a new long contract would be on it's way  |
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[b:3bjm6pvr]Dave Whelan the saviour of the Pies[/b:3bjm6pvr]
[u:3bjm6pvr][i:3bjm6pvr][b:3bjm6pvr]Fully marked up rentbook on display[/b:3bjm6pvr][/i:3bjm6pvr][/u:3bjm6pvr]
[u:3bjm6pvr][b:3bjm6pvr]Who do you think you are candidates[/b:3bjm6pvr][/u:3bjm6pvr]
[b:3bjm6pvr]Saints have never won the 2nd division Title, so there!![/b:3bjm6pvr]: |
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "The lads obviously got problems.
Comes from Leigh and plays for Saints.
I agree he needs all the help he can get.'"
Thanks for the advice, obviously a lot of thought and personel experience of being a supporter of a team that has had Long, Gleeson and Hock (amongst others) who not only transgressed,, but, were resigned (or tried to be) by the Pies.
Throwing stones in Whelans glasshouse springs to mind.  |
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "The lads obviously got problems.
Comes from Leigh and plays for Saints.
I agree he needs all the help he can get.'"
Nearly as mad as living in the metroploitan borough of St.Helens and supporting Wigan, now anyone that mad can't have an opinion worth listening to surely? |
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SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
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| Quote: Benidorm John "Thanks for the advice, obviously a lot of thought and personel experience of being a supporter of a team that has had Long, Gleeson and Hock (amongst others) who not only transgressed,, but, were resigned (or tried to be) by the Pies.
Throwing stones in Whelans glasshouse springs to mind. ![]()
But if they were caught transgressing twice they were gonners. The first two you mentioned are prime examples. Hock has served his time, and has rightly been given a second chance, but if he steps out of line again it's goodbye.
There have been a few other given a second chance at Wigan but then "moved on"
I'm a great believer that anyone can make a mistake, and in most cases be given a second chance.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "But if they were caught transgressing twice they were gonners. The first two you mentioned are prime examples.'"
Given Wigan were handing Sean Long cash for him to re-sign (or to go on holiday as it turns out ), I wouldn't exactly call him a "prime example" of Wigan's strict "two strikes and out" approach . . . . |
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Moore as had more than one chance at Saints he loves a beer or 10 and is a fool once he takes his first sip never mind at the end! Hes banned from Driving already so the option of his continueing to play might not be his or saints!
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[b:3bjm6pvr]Dave Whelan the saviour of the Pies[/b:3bjm6pvr]
[u:3bjm6pvr][i:3bjm6pvr][b:3bjm6pvr]Fully marked up rentbook on display[/b:3bjm6pvr][/i:3bjm6pvr][/u:3bjm6pvr]
[u:3bjm6pvr][b:3bjm6pvr]Who do you think you are candidates[/b:3bjm6pvr][/u:3bjm6pvr]
[b:3bjm6pvr]Saints have never won the 2nd division Title, so there!![/b:3bjm6pvr]: |
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "But if they were caught transgressing twice they were gonners. The first two you mentioned are prime examples. Hock has served his time, and has rightly been given a second chance, but if he steps out of line again it's goodbye.
There have been a few other given a second chance at Wigan but then "moved on"
I'm a great believer that anyone can make a mistake, and in most cases be given a second chance.'"
OK, but bear in mind, this is your final written warning |
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We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47035.gif |
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Just like with Leon if the courts rule him out that is one thing, if the courts don't then it's more a tactical position for the club.
It's not moral or anything like that. The court will decide the moral of the case, the club need to do what is best for the club
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[quote='Fishsta"']I've always thought of McGuire as a good player, and I wouldn't normally wish injury on any player, but there was a certain hint of poetic justice to that.
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Another classic:
[quote='Fishsta']You forgot to take off the "Saints Reduction Factor" when calculating the ban.
Standard suspension / Saints Reduction Factor = Actual ban for Saints player.
Therefore (2 / 3) = 0.666
0.666 < 1 therefore actual ban equals "less than 1 match".
Therefore ZERO.[/quote]
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Given Wigan were handing Sean Long cash for him to re-sign (or to go on holiday as it turns out ![]()
Nice work 
Not quite the virtuous club you proclaim to be eh Rogues.
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SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg |
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| Quote: Don Brennan "Nice work ![]()
If Longy told me it was dark, I'd open the curtains to check.
Did Wigan re-sign him no.
Did Wigan get rid of Long, Gleeson, Goulding, Robinson, TIckle, Aspinwall etc.
Yes.
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[b:3bjm6pvr]Dave Whelan the saviour of the Pies[/b:3bjm6pvr]
[u:3bjm6pvr][i:3bjm6pvr][b:3bjm6pvr]Fully marked up rentbook on display[/b:3bjm6pvr][/i:3bjm6pvr][/u:3bjm6pvr]
[u:3bjm6pvr][b:3bjm6pvr]Who do you think you are candidates[/b:3bjm6pvr][/u:3bjm6pvr]
[b:3bjm6pvr]Saints have never won the 2nd division Title, so there!![/b:3bjm6pvr]: |
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "
Point 1. If Longy told me it was dark, I'd open the curtains to check.
Point 2 Did Wigan re-sign him no
Point 3 Did Wigan get rid of Long, Gleeson, Goulding, Robinson, TIckle, Aspinwall etc. Yes
Point 1 I think you need to open your eyes first.
Point 2 Did they try to, Yes
Point 3 I ask you, where did they learn their tricks of the trade!!!!
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "But if they were caught transgressing twice they were gonners. The first two you mentioned are prime examples. Hock has served his time, and has rightly been given a second chance, but if he steps out of line again it's goodbye.
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Didn't Hock go under the name of Charnock during his early days at Wigan?
I'm sure he used up the one and only chance or does the count start again if you change your name? |
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SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg |
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| Quote: Paul Youane "Didn't Hock go under the name of Charnock during his early days at Wigan?
I'm sure he used up the one and only chance or does the count start again if you change your name?'"
Hocks name was Charnley, but when his parents eventually married he took his dads name, but he always played as Gareth Hock while at Wigan. His name change was when he was much younger. |
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| Quote: Paul Youane "
I'm sure he used up the one and only chance or does the count start again if you change your name?'"
The count starts again, and again, and again when you become an established top player. If Hock was an average squad member, he wouldn't still be contracted to Wigan now. Anyone who disputes that is either naive or stupid.
Same goes for any player to a point. Clubs aren't going to release their top international players unless they really have no choice. |
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