Nope. There is 50 grand that can be a reduction on players wages with over 10 years service. Thats 50 grand in total not each player. But you could spend it on one or many players with over 10 years.

The rhinos have sini, senior, Jjb, Bailey, burrow, McGuire. Disco goo until he moved on.

So say senior who will be on reduced terms, may only be taking up 20 grand on the cap but getting 70K but no reduction on anyone else.

This is correct, at Warrington we have Jon Clarke, Lee Briers and Paul Wood all with more than 10 years service but we are only allowed £50,000 in total spread across one or more players.

Seems a shame really that if a player stays at a club for ten years then the club should be given an incentive to keep him on the cap by allowing £50,000 for each player.

There is also (as an extra to the 10 year allowance) a £50K allowance for the top earner who has come through your academy system.
I would guess Roby at Saints, Burrow or McGuire at Leeds, O'loughlin at Wigan, Paul Wood at Wire.

We are not scrapping the barrel with our kids as some doom mongers would suggest


1. Wellens (1st choice)
2. Gardner (1st choice)
3. Shenton (1st choice)
4. Wheeler / Lomax (1st choice)weirdly enough
5. Meli (1st choice)
6. Gaskell
7. Wheeler / Lomax
8. Perry (1st choice)
9. Roby (1st choice)
10. Graham (1st choice)
11. Flannery (1st choice)
12. Puletua (1st choice)
13. Moore (2nd choice but not youth player anymore international hooker with many years of experience at SL)

14. Clough (1st choice)
15. Ashurst
16. Magennis / LMS
17. Foster (should be on the field IMO, but a kid all the same)

So I make that 11 first choice players. We are hardly in a war with this casualty list.

Dux and I watched a game from last year on record t'other week, and the line up whas very ropey. We're doing alright, I just think the amount of shuffling round messrs Wheeler/Lomax/Eastmond/Gaskell/ Foster have done over the past 2 years has meant that we don't really know (or perhaps are confident in knowing) what our actual starting line up should be.

Maybe not scraping the barrel overall, but the above is the real negative.

Lomax got some extra responsibilty in a game towards the end of las t season (was it Bradford at home?) and had a stormer! Maybe moving him closer in with Wheels in the centre will help bring out his best.
Gaskell is a good 1st receiver and although his kicking is inconsistant, it does have potential, so will hopefully improve as he gets more game time.
The key (as so often) in the forward. If we defend with authority and crash the ball up well, make the offloads and the back row offer the runners, our young half backs will have a chance.
If the forwards play like they did last week, it would be a case of our youngster not standing a chance.

alright don't throw your handbag.

Don't know if it is anywhere else on this thread but I noticed in the St. Helens Star that Clough is or has been suffering from tonsilitis. Hope he is OK to play on Saturday.

Luckily you don't need much talking in a Leeds match. Anything above 2 syllables would confuse these Yorkshire folk.

It's a clutch

Spot on, if we are to progress we need to give the likes of Gaskell, Lomax and Wheeler time to bed in at half back.

Gaskell has had 5 games as the solo half back. Give him a partner who will share the work and see how he goes. Looked much better with Pryce along side him. Supporters will say give youth a chance, stop buying aussie journey men, but then critise the very same young players when they have had less than a hand full of games at first grade.

Ideally Gaskell would have maybe played a couple of 20 mins this season so far. Instead he's got to step up , but lets give him a chance.

Young players will not progress or develop unless there is someone showing them how. We don't currently have an old head in the side capable of encouraging and advising a young half back. Leon in the side with Gaskell would be fine, I'd have no problems with that. It would be a really beneficial thing for Gaskell's development for him to play alongside Leon.

BUT without him in the side it's akin to having a formula one car and a baby in the driving seat. You are not going to get very far and could easily be detrimental to his development.

As i work for myself, i've been to work with proper flu, and every type of cold or hangover. I had tonsilitis once and was in bed for a week. If Cloughys got that he wont be near the team for a couple of weeks

Not every flu, there's no way on god's earth you would have made it to work, if you had contracted the mythical man flu. Even the best men fall victim to that foul illness.