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13 - Flannery 5/10 The usual. Average and ordinary.
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| Quote: Saddened! "No, he refused to play because he doesn't like cats.'"
you're wrong there mate cos' he played with Adam MOGG at Raiders in the early 2000s  |
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Why don't we just have a thread titled [size"SADDENED[/size and call it a day?
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You can't slag of Gaskell,its ridiculous to do so.
He had a bad kick straight into touch and a pass into the stand, but created alot and looked more a threat with the ball. Not a perfect performance, but a good one for a young guy playing 1/2back in one of his first few games without much support from his partner.
Saddened has just gone over board because for once one of his match predictions almost came true.
Our defence seems lax. The oppo seem to be able to get too easy yards up the middle, even without particulary quick ptbs. Our attack seems too one up and one dimensional.
Quins gave ABSOLUTELY nothing away in terms of penalties and turnovers. Whereas, when something goes our way, like a penalty not finding touch, Meli catches it and manages to run into touch on the return!?
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| Quote: lefty goldblatt "Looks like your youth policy is working with the likes of
Despite the fact that many of those players were signed from other clubs - Myler, Bridge, Atkins etc. The rest are pretty average anyway (with the possible exception of Evans, who has been overhyped by Sky after one half decent performance).
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| Quote: Exeter Rhino "Despite the fact that many of those players were signed from other clubs - Myler, Bridge, Atkins etc. The rest are pretty average anyway (with the possible exception of Evans, who has been overhyped by Sky after one half decent performance).'"
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[quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.[/quote:3hoggrzp]
[quote="nickmanator":3hoggrzp]billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind[/quote:3hoggrzp]
[quote="robbierotten":3hoggrzp]Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.[/quote:3hoggrzp]
[quote="Deano G":3hoggrzp]Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?[/quote:3hoggrzp]
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| Quote: Mugwump "Why don't we just have a thread titled [size"SADDENED[/size and call it a day?'"
Bit harsh. Saddened is actually one of the more intelligent Saints supporters on this website. Not that that's saying much necessarily!
Actually and being serious for a moment I do think there's a bit too much pessimism here, Saints aren't THAT bad. This still looks to me like a transitional era rather than the kind of desperate slump Wigan suffered in the mid-noughties. You'll have a season or so in the doldrums but will recover once you've cleared out the old timers like Wellens and some of the players who simply aren't good enough to wear a Saints shirt. Assuming of course that you've got the right leadership at the club? |
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Tonight:
1 - Wellens 3/10 Like public transport. Late, slow and stunk. He's not even Mr Reliable anymore
1 - Laboured return by Wellens +1.5 metres
I'm not a Saints fan and you guys obviously see him play a lot more than me but maybe you should give Wellens a bit of slack. He's playing with damaged ribs
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| Quote: Mugwump "Why don't we just have a thread titled [size"SADDENED[/size and call it a day?'"
I notice you don't argue with any of the points I made. There is no sensationalism in there, no silly 'we're terrible and going to finish bottom' predictions.
The team isn't playing in a manner that will enable them to win games. The one out nature of so many of our sets is so firmly anti-Saints and so behind what the progressive sides in Super League like Quins, Huddersfield, Warrington and Wigan are doing. They put the ball through hands, we trundle.
My most controversial point is about Gaskell. He gets involved, tries things. But I just think his introduction into the halves should be when Leon Pryce is with him to take some of the pressure off him. I think this spell in the team could do as much damage to Gaskell's confidence as it will benefit him in experience. |
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And last but not least, to all those people who wrote this team off.
To all those people who critisized this team...tonight's for you.
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Thought for years that a team as good as Saints should have a much better full back. Been far too slow for years (remember the giant Ali Lauititi out-pacing him in a chase to the line a few years back). Seems like a nice guy but, Saints you could do a lot better.
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| Quote: Saddened! "I notice you don't argue with any of the points I made.'"
I don't count grains of sand on Formby beach, either. |
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Wouldn't read too much into this result other than Quins with a new coach look like Quins with a new team.
They are playing nearly text book rugby, few mistakes, few penalties, quick play the balls, neat kicking game and good defence.
Saints with a new coach also look like Saints with a new team, a team that has forgotten how to motivate themselves (unless they are playing Wigan) and offering bollockings rather than encouragement when someone cocks up.
You'll never replace KC because he was a one off but whilst he was playing, I never once witnessed him critising his team mates, or turning his back on someone because they'd made a mistake.
Unlike a certain Mr Graham.
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I get more excited watching the new stadium webcams than watching Saints at the moment.
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[color=#0000FF:1a6njd9t]NOW THE WIRE![/color:1a6njd9t]
[quote="JWP":1a6njd9t]Sam looks to me to be the type who 'disconnects' halfway through a game of FIFA when getting a good hiding, and that's just not on, Sam.[/quote:1a6njd9t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_48172.jpg |
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| Quote: Birkbygiant "You sound bitter ![]()
got it in one, exeter rhino, go and enjoy your massive win over salford.
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