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| Quote: Ashy "Thats a ridiculous comparison. You cant compare the points for a kicker and a none kicker.
Last season Meli scored 21 tries in 20 games. 1.05 per game.
Foster scored 7 tries in 11 games. 0.64 per game.
Meli makes mistakes but he scores the tries. Foster should be in the team ahead of Gardner though.'"
You have missed my point completely. The fact that one is a kicker and one is a non kicker is irrelevant in this comparison. I was comparing the points that each player contributes per game, not the points contributed due to trys scored.
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| Quote: BackrowSaint "You have missed my point completely. The fact that one is a kicker and one is a non kicker is irrelevant in this comparison. I was comparing the points that each player contributes per game, not the points contributed due to trys scored.'"
What a daft comparison. Using that comparison Ste Tyrer would rate above Greg Inglis.
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| Quote: Saddened! "What a daft comparison. Using that comparison Ste Tyrer would rate above Greg Inglis.'"
I was comparing the points they contributed per game. Not the standard or ability of the player. Just that having Foster in the team as a goalkicker would contribute more points than having Meli.
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| Quote: Ashy "Last season Meli scored 21 tries in 20 games. 1.05 per game.
Foster scored 7 tries in 11 games. 0.64 per game.'"
But how many tries did each of them concede? I'm sure working that out would balance things out a little! Seriously, though, Meli is an incredibly experienced winger built like a brick poohouse: he should be scoring lots of tries. Foster played at centre in the youth teams, is a skinny thing who only started playing first grade halfway through last season. Can't really compare the two.
Personally, as is well documented on here, I would ditch Meli for Foster just because Meli is a defensive liability but successive Aussie coaches don't share my view so I guess Gardner could be in for the drop this weekend if neither Lomax nor Eastmond is up to kicking duties.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "But how many tries did each of them concede? I'm sure working that out would balance things out a little!
That is the line of thinking i've been trying (and failing by the looks of it) to explain. Not the Foster is neccesarily better than Meli or that they can be compared in terms of gameplay, just that Foster could potentially contribute more points to the team and the team total could be higher with Foster playing rather than Meli.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Meli for all his sins is a fantastic finisher and a genuine threat from 5m.
Foster isn't a threat at all. No pace, no footwork, no strength. In fact the only thing going for him is his nice hair. He can't kick goals and he'll never be anything other than an average SL winger. Perhaps if we had Jamie Lyon or Paul Newlove on his inside it would be okay, but we don't.'"
I'll take Foster and raise you a Sean Day
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| I believe Francis!
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| Why this fixation with Meli.
Lets look at your wingers comparison another way! Who do you think Goulding would rather be coming face to face with on saturday, Meli or Foster?
I know who I would hazard a guess at being his choice.
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| Quote: Duke Eddington "Who do you think Goulding would rather be coming face to face with on saturday, Meli or Foster? '"
Meli if he is kicking, Foster if he is running.
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| Quote: Duke Eddington "Why this fixation with Meli.
Lets look at your wingers comparison another way! Who do you think Goulding would rather be coming face to face with on saturday, Meli or Foster?
I know who I would hazard a guess at being his choice.'"
I suspect he wouldn't care either way. He like them is not exactly a world beater.
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| Anyway....back to the original thread.
Gutted but not surprised that leon didn't even make the start of the season. how long will kyle "biscuit boy" eastmond last in the game?
If his 2010 track records is anything to go by - about 30 mins IMO.
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| I was pretty confident we would beat the pies on Saturday, then I heard Pryce was out! We will lose for sure without Pryce.
No Pryce, no chance!
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| Quote: St pete "I was pretty confident we would beat the pies on Saturday, then I heard Pryce was out! We will lose for sure without Pryce.
No Pryce, no chance!'"
Now now Peter - think positive - it's a good job your not in the team for Saturday. You would be turning out for Saints thinking we're not gonna win today lads.
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| Quote: BackrowSaint "The fact that one is a kicker and one is a non kicker is irrelevant in this comparison. I was comparing the points that each player contributes per game, not the points contributed due to trys scored.'" I think that's more than a little contradictory.
If you're suggesting taking Foster because we need to have a reliable goal kicker in the squad, then that's a reasonable argument. However, Eastomd, Lomax and even Wheeler have proved as reliable goal kickers as Foster (except foster can do it without a piece of him falling off).
Losing pryce is a massive blow, but if Eastmond is fit and can keep our kicking game in order and the pack does a decent job (which I fancy it could), then we'll be in with a shout.
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "However, Eastomd, Lomax and even Wheeler have proved as reliable goal kickers as Foster (except foster can do it without a piece of him falling off).'"
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