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| Quote: Saddened! "Strange one. He's come in as a kid and evicted Fozzard from his squad position. He was surely one they should have been looking to keep. We should have signed him up and released the likes of Frodsham and Wheeler.'"
I wish people would stop getting at Frodsham. He's a year younger than Emmitt and a year ago people were mocking Emmitt and saying he'll never make it. "More aggression in a labrador puppy" I seem to remember.
Next year will be Frodsham's acid test, just as this year was Emmitt's. The club clearly see something in him so I'm happy to see how he goes next year.
Good luck to Emmitt - we have established players in Perry/Jammer/LMS/TP/Clough who will all be ahead of him in the pecking order for a prop spot, so I don't blame him for moving on, nor do I blame Saints for not throwing cash at him to keep him in the squad.
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| I would have liked to have kept Emmitt around, that said he has looked a touch on the slow side to me in recent weeks. There are also five better players at prop here next year, and Gareth Frodsham who is younger than Emmitt so not a surprise.
Quote: Saddened! "He mentions that he could have stayed at Saints, so presumably there is at least some cap room available now.'"
Not much I would suspect - just because he had an option to stay doesn't mean he was offered an upgrade on what he was already on.
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| Frodsham has suddenly had a lot more pressure heaped on his shoulders.
FWIW, and from what I have seen, Emmit is more likely to 'make it' than Frodsham, but I'm sure the club know best.
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| Quote: Dettoriman "Thanks for that, Were also after a Number 7, Whats that Eastmond guy up to next season ?'"
You should have chased Matty Smith, pal.
Going back to Emmit, I guess at the end of the day, if cas made him a decent offer along with an increased chance of a regular shirt, saints would have been stretched to justify matching it, considering our front row recruitment.
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| Quote: saints35 bulls0 "Frodsham has suddenly had a lot more pressure heaped on his shoulders.'" ??? Pressure??? Basically he needs to wait for his chance and then take it when it comes along. No more pressure than any other youngster. Although, if he wants to carve out a career, he'll have to learn to deal with it.
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| Quote: Ski "So basically, you're talking out your Iestyn?'"
Seems I wasn't!!!!
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| Quote: FearTheVee "I wish people would stop getting at Frodsham. He's a year younger than Emmitt and a year ago people were mocking Emmitt and saying he'll never make it. "More aggression in a labrador puppy" I seem to remember.'"
It was myself who said that, well, it was Golden Retreviour, not Labrador, but there we go.
I have also said lately how well Emmitt has played for us and that he has proved me wrong. Furthermore, i am disappointed to see him leaving.
Best of luck to him at Castleford.
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| Quote: OoOGazOoO "I have also said lately how well Emmitt has played for us and that he has proved me wrong. Furthermore, i am disappointed to see him leaving.
Best of luck to him at Castleford.'"
In a similar vein to Matty Smith, we simply can't keep all the youngsters when they know they're not a starting 17 player. I hope Emmit goes well, and Classy Cas is a nice club for our lad to go to, since most of us have no i'll feeling to them.
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| There's also Paul Johnson who made a couple of appearances from the bench this year ....... unless he's leaving as well !!!
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "In a similar vein to Matty Smith, we simply can't keep all the youngsters when they know they're not a starting 17 player. '"
That wasn't the case with Emmitt, though. He was made an offer in that he states he could have stayed at Saints. So far as any of us are aware, Saints didn't make an offer to Matty Smith. So Emmitt is leaving for a better offer rather than because he couldn't get into the starting 17, which he might well have done simply because I can't see us existing on just two props all season!
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| Quote: Noggy "There's also Paul Johnson who made a couple of appearances from the bench this year ....... unless he's leaving as well !!!'"
Won the 20s player of the season I understand, but then he is 22.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Won the 20s player of the season I understand, but then he is 22.'"
He's a(nother) back rower though, isn't he?
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| Quote: SaintsFan "That wasn't the case with Emmitt, though. He was made an offer in that he states he could have stayed at Saints. So far as any of us are aware, Saints didn't make an offer to Matty Smith. So Emmitt is leaving for a better offer rather than because he couldn't get into the starting 17, which he might well have done simply because I can't see us existing on just two props all season!'" I don't really follow with the last bit about 2 props, but I imagine Saints offer was an amount relating to a back up/squad member/youngster, whereas Cas's would be that of a first team regular, so probably a larger amount.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "So Emmitt is leaving for a better offer rather than because he couldn't get into the starting 17, which he might well have done simply because I can't see us existing on just two props all season!'"
Jammer/Perry/LMS/TP - I make that four. Five if you include Clough (he is clearly used in that role).
Those 5 are all better propos than Emmitt.
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| Quote: Dux "He's a(nother) back rower though, isn't he?'"
I think he's played a bit of prop for the U20s, but doesn't look anywhere near big enough to play prop for the 1sts (although there was a time we may have said that about Clough).
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