You don't count. You're like the character Robert Englund played in the original series of V. An alien, odd and funny looking but generally harmless and not trying to annoy anyone intentionally.

Chris Riley, Paul Wood, Mike Cooper, Tyrone McCarthy,Kevin Penny to name but a few currently.

And correct me if im wrong, a saints legend came through Wire youth ranks... Does Paul Sculthorpe ring any bells???

Paul Wellens - Produced by Saints
Ade Gardner - Made into an England international by Saints
Kyle Eastmond - Produced by Saints
Nick Fozzard - Be on peanuts
Cunningham - Produced by Saints
James Graham - Produced by Saints
Jon Wilkin - Made into an England international by Saints.


Thats the reason everyones suspicious of Wire, other clubs are built around players produced by themselves, whereas Wire have bought everyone in. Surely you'd have to pay more to get the finished article than produce it yourself.

Maybe someone should email the RFL's salary cap admin team and let them know we are over the cap.

I love it how everyone else's top players are on "peanuts" yet ours are on big bucks.



No one likes us we don't care

Shame Saints couldn't get there own "Sculthorpe" instead of paying a world record fee.

Part of the same Oldham Academy team as Iestyn Harris I take it.

I guess you mean in a similar way that Kyle Eastmond has come through the Oldham ranks.

Muppet.

Look at you, hard man.

No, I don't think thats the case at all. More like no one cares about you.

The people who start these threads are dumb. If Wire were such Melbourne-esque fraudsters they would win more than 1 trophy (Which they won through a lucky draw and avoiding Saints & Leeds) in 14 years of Super League.

I've said before that i'm sure Wire must be fiddling with the salary cap but i've also said fair play to them. They have the cash to spend(well Moran does) and have built themselves a side that has won a trophy and will continue to challenge for others. They've brought themselves in a good coach and unlike in previous years they're giving young guys opportunites and look to have some good potential at their disposal. They also have a fantastic set up at the Haliwell Jones and a good support.

They're good news for the game at the moment and it's great to see all 3 of Wigan, Saints and Wire up at the top of the league. The games between the 3 sides are looked forward to hugely now and will see plenty of sell out crowds.

If no one cares then why so many threads on it?

God knows. I reckon it's one person with a bee in his bonnet about it who trolls round on his 14 rlfans.com accounts spreading rumours about Wire 'doing a Melbourne'.

Hard man or not do you still maintain Sculthorpe came through the Oldham ranks?