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| Quote: Ande "Bleedin eck what more does he need to do?!!'"
bring in that effort and style of play most weeks, not wins, just the effort and style of play. And not every week, i know thats not realistic
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| Quote: Saint Simon "bring in that effort and style of play most weeks, not wins, just the effort and style of play. And not every week, i know thats not realistic'"
That won't work against the more disciplined teams though. The likes of Wire, Hudds, Leeds etc will catch on to that and just stop the offloads that Bratfut were incapable of doing yesterday.
Potter and the team change the style of play depending on the game like one of the better coaches and teams in the league.
They realised that Bratfut were lax in defense yesterday and they took advantage well.
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| Quote: Ande "That won't work against the more disciplined teams though. The likes of Wire, Hudds, Leeds etc will catch on to that and just stop the offloads that Bratfut were incapable of doing yesterday.
Potter and the team change the style of play depending on the game like one of the better coaches and teams in the league.
They realised that Bratfut were lax in defense yesterday and they took advantage well.'"
Are you actually blind or just an crazed optimist? We had 1 half decent game against a very very poor Bradford side and the back half of last season + the Hull game is all forgotten? At times on sunday we looked 1 dimentional again, some of the passing was pretty poor and a better defence would have closed us down. We showed some moments of class and we defended extremely well , we have a long way to go if we actually wanna win anything this season.
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| Quote: No1 Saint "Are you actually blind or just an crazed optimist? We had 1 half decent game against a very very poor Bradford side and the back half of last season + the Hull game is all forgotten? At times on sunday we looked 1 dimentional again, some of the passing was pretty poor and a better defence would have closed us down. We showed some moments of class and we defended extremely well , we have a long way to go if we actually wanna win anything this season.'"
Neither, he's just considered the many reasons why we performed so poorly at the back end of the season and against Hull rather than putting it all on Potters head.
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| Quote: Tony Stark "Neither, he's just considered the many reasons why we performed so poorly at the back end of the season and against Hull rather than putting it all on Potters head.'"
Well the coach picks the team , coaches the players and selects the tactics , the buck stops with him. Too many times we have looked lost on the pitch, confused and idea less in attack - it was only late last year when Sean Long came out to the press to say he was confused .. thats never a good sign (on the Rugby pitch at least). 1 half decent game against a poor side doesnt change anything, if we continue to improve and start to get back to something like attractive Rugby (you remember that dont you ?? if not get a video of the last Wigan game /gag) then I will start being optimistic
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| Can we say it was an improvement. For christ's sake stop all the negativity. If we won by a hundred people still would'nt be pleased. Don't know what they are putting in the water in st. helens but the people on this board are a bunch of miserable gits
Yes we are not the top team anymore so what, we don't have a divine right to be. We have lost some big names and young players are comming thru.
Lets see how things go after at least a dozen games before we go on the usual st. helens witch hunt.
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| Quote: Trav2005 "Can we say it was an improvement. For christ's sake stop all the negativity. If we won by a hundred people still would'nt be pleased. Don't know what they are putting in the water in st. helens but the people on this board are a bunch of miserable gits
Yes we are not the top team anymore so what, we don't have a divine right to be. We have lost some big names and young players are comming thru.
Lets see how things go after at least a dozen games before we go on the usual st. helens witch hunt.'"
I think we lack a happy medium - I dont think anyone will deny that it was an improvement however you need to keep things into perspective. I dont know any Saints fans that think we have an automatic right to win every game but I know many fans who believe we should play in a certain way and that way isnt 5 drives and and kick (which until the Dulls game we have been doing)
There is a fine line between negativity and realism jus like there is a fine line between optimism and blind stupidity
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| Before i start i'm not Potters biggest fan, nor am i his biggest critic, and a Saints fan I am far from happy with what was served up last season by ourselves and Super League as a whole.
However i don't blame that all on Potter, 5 drives and a kick was pretty much what everyone did for all of last season due to the PTB and the teams that varied wildly from structured play won as many trophies as we did.
Like KK in football there is a fine line between playing sensible and winning or playing exciting and losing, some fans will back it, some will loathe it, the chairman will want what is best for the club if he thinks Potter isn't up to it then am sure he will sort it, we weren't exactly miles from success last season despite the boring rugby.
It could easily be argued that we didn't play attractive rugby for a large portion of Anderson's time at the helm we were just better and more efficient than everyone else at what we did (until we choked in the GF). As our stars got older and started to leave we were bound to come back to the pack, existing contracts has limited our ability to significantly change our squad and as a result we've lacked genuine pace since 2006 which has certainly affected how expansive we can be.
I couldn't go on Sunday, but without going ott even against a poor team it was a step in the right direction after Hull. It also sounded like we scored twice from distance, this if nothing else is something we have really lacked the ability to do in the last couple of years. While i won't shout about us from the rooftops after one win, i'm not going to right the season off after one loss.
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| Quote: Tony Stark "Compare that to today's game. Maybe its not a corner turner, but it just goes to show you shouldn't write the season off after the first game.'"
I think the phrase you are looking for is "Never write the Saints off!"
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| Think we must of sacked him, we played skillful, entertaining rugby and scored more than 20, Wello's 4th was a joy to watch, such a shame Sky turned up for the wrong game.
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| Just watched our tries on the superleague website.
I know the Bulls defence has been panned by those who attended, but to me those tries were all about keeping the ball alive, offloading and playing at pace. We looked like the Saints whirlwind of old at times with numbers supporting the ball carrier.
Much better, same again next week please lads!
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| Quote: Chris Saint "Before i start i'm not Potters biggest fan, nor am i his biggest critic, and a Saints fan I am far from happy with what was served up last season by ourselves and Super League as a whole.
However i don't blame that all on Potter, 5 drives and a kick was pretty much what everyone did for all of last season due to the PTB and the teams that varied wildly from structured play won as many trophies as we did.
Like KK in football there is a fine line between playing sensible and winning or playing exciting and losing, some fans will back it, some will loathe it, the chairman will want what is best for the club if he thinks Potter isn't up to it then am sure he will sort it, we weren't exactly miles from success last season despite the boring rugby.
It could easily be argued that we didn't play attractive rugby for a large portion of Anderson's time at the helm we were just better and more efficient than everyone else at what we did (until we choked in the GF). As our stars got older and started to leave we were bound to come back to the pack, existing contracts has limited our ability to significantly change our squad and as a result we've lacked genuine pace since 2006 which has certainly affected how expansive we can be.
I couldn't go on Sunday, but without going ott even against a poor team it was a step in the right direction after Hull. It also sounded like we scored twice from distance, this if nothing else is something we have really lacked the ability to do in the last couple of years. While i won't shout about us from the rooftops after one win, i'm not going to right the season off after one loss.'"
Can you please refrain from talking common sense on this forum please. It is not expected, I expect Potter Out and the usual cr@p that comes out of No1 Saint's trap!
Thanks in advance
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Just watched our tries on the superleague website.
I know the Bulls defence has been panned by those who attended, but to me those tries were all about keeping the ball alive, offloading and playing at pace. We looked like the Saints whirlwind of old at times with numbers supporting the ball carrier.
Much better, same again next week please lads!'"
All through the middle and ALL created by Super Leon.
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| Quote: Cala Millor Rhino "Can you please refrain from talking common sense on this forum please. It is not expected, I expect Potter Out and the usual cr@p that comes out of No1 Saint's trap!
Thanks in advance'"
/yawn I dont even know who you are just some random Leeds troll.
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| Quote: Saddened! "All through the middle and ALL created by Super Leon.'"
Breaks were made on the fringes too - Meli nearly scored from some great quick hands to our left but was ankle tapped in the clear. Ended up leading to a try as the break has Bradford back pedalling in defence.
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