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| Quote: SmokeyTA "indeed, one team spending more than they what the bring in via revenue beating another team spending more than they bring in via revunue relying on their owners to prop them up, that definately wouldnt have happened pre-SC
just think under an non SC world the top four would be made up of clubs with rich owners willing to invest heavily in the squad, like Mcmanus, Davy or Caddick, and certainly a club wouldnt be able to spend a fortune on overseas players to make it like Hull KR
and in a none SC world, two club like Wire and Hudds wouldnt be in the final because their tinpot chirmen couldnt afford it
except maybe Caddick, Davy, Moran, Mcmanus are pretty rich and spending a fair penny on their clubs, and maybe it isnt down to the SC but intelligent businessmen that has helped these clubs'"
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I'm not Jesus Christ, I've come to accept that now.
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| Quote: Saint Simon "a cup final can be worth anywhere up to £500,000. If we don't get the grand final we could lose £1million for the financial year'"
Let's hope we haven't budgeted for making either then. |
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Aren't the squads of both clubs pretty much the same last year? The only things that have changed seem to be the coaches. Nathan Brown has transformed Huddersfield. That's the difference. Do you have money you can't spend? If not, the salary cap is irrelevant, surely.
I've just read the thread on "the end of an era", and it is good to see that the main view appears to be welcoming an open competition, unlike the Wigan threads on the same subject, who seem to think it is their right to buy the game for themselves.
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[quote="Deano G":wqb36lm9]Come to think of it, that Saints side (1992/93) was a better side than the 2006 side and the 2009 side.[/quote:wqb36lm9]: |
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "Let's hope we haven't budgeted for making either then.'"
If we have then we deserve everything we get. That was Wigan plan during their glory-buying years and they are STILL paying the price for it. |
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do teams get any money if they win the wcc.
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| Quote: joe d saint "do teams get any money if they win the wcc.'" there might be a small amount, but most revenue will come from ticket sales and merchandise |
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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: Saint Simon "a cup final can be worth anywhere up to £500,000. If we don't get the grand final we could lose £1million for the financial year'"
It's more like half of that. This is not football. |
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| Quote: odemwingie "It's more like half of that. This is not football.'" the prize money alone in 97 was £250,000, that came from the then chairman at the agm |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "indeed, one team spending more than they what the bring in via revenue beating another team spending more than they bring in via revunue relying on their owners to prop them up, that definately wouldnt have happened pre-SC
just think under an non SC world the top four would be made up of clubs with rich owners willing to invest heavily in the squad, like Mcmanus, Davy or Caddick, and certainly a club wouldnt be able to spend a fortune on overseas players to make it like Hull KR
and in a none SC world, two club like Wire and Hudds wouldnt be in the final because their tinpot chirmen couldnt afford it
except maybe Caddick, Davy, Moran, Mcmanus are pretty rich and spending a fair penny on their clubs, and maybe it isnt down to the SC but intelligent businessmen that has helped these clubs'"
This post makes me laugh, I presume by Davy he means ken davy? i.e the Giants chairman, one sentence is saying davy is rich and the next he is saying our so called "tin pot chairman" cant afford it? Are you sure you know what you are on about? HMMMMM thought not! |
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| Quote: hudders789 "This post makes me laugh, I presume by Davy he means ken davy? i.e the Giants chairman, one sentence is saying davy is rich and the next he is saying our so called "tin pot chairman" cant afford it? Are you sure you know what you are on about? HMMMMM thought not!'" I was being a little sarcastic there fella!
In case you missed it, the point was the success of both wire + hudds has nothing to do with the sc, but more to do with two rich owners willing to invest time money and skill in improving their clubs |
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| Quote: odemwingie "You are right, it is working......it has evened up the teams.....1. BUT you watch a game from pre super league and tell the quality of players has improved, tell me the games are better to watch. The semi was great today 2. but how many poor games do we have with no skill and 'playing the percentages'.
It has worked but has also made another thing worse.'" 1. Oh yes I remeber those time well, Watching wigan buy the league and cup double every year was so great to watch and really helped bring the game on 
2. As opposed to every game thar didn't involve Wigan being poor because only Wigan had the good players what with them killing the sport with a totally selfish attitude of 'fook em well buy em all'.
Do you mean like that? |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "In case you missed it, the point was the success of both wire + hudds has nothing to do with the sc, but more to do with two rich owners willing to invest time money and skill in improving their clubs'"
How you can be so sure that without the salary cap players like Wild, Robinson, Mason, Wild, Hodgson, Morley, King et al would be at those teams? IIRC Wild was made an offer by Saints at a time when Saints could, if the salary cap wasn't in place, comfortably paid more for his services than Huddersfield and he scored a couple of tries yesterday. |
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: McClennan "How you can be so sure that without the salary cap players like Wild, Robinson, Mason, Wild, Hodgson, Morley, King et al would be at those teams? IIRC Wild was made an offer by Saints at a time when Saints could, if the salary cap wasn't in place, comfortably paid more for his services than Huddersfield and he scored a couple of tries yesterday.'" I can't, if the universe followed an entirely different timeline, I like everyone else would have no idea what would happen!
But what I am saying is that it is the investment of time money and skill which brought success to wire + hudds not the sc. Quality + time will always bring success |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "I can't, if the universe followed an entirely different timeline, I like everyone else would have no idea what would happen!
But what I am saying is that it is the investment of time money and skill which brought success to wire + hudds not the sc. Quality + time will always bring success'"
Not if someone else comes in and buys them. |
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Durham Giant "Not if someone else comes in and buys them.'" is that what would happen? are you sure that maybe Davy couldnt reject these offers? could HE be the one buying players? |
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