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| Quote: St pete "I think meli has done ok this year but can't take any type of kick. High or along the ground he has huge problems.
Gardner is pretty good under high kick but that's all he's good at.
Gardner is like a magnet to the other teams defence! He just runs straight at the defence. He won't try and beat a man.
He is also very slow and weak in defence.
I'd take meli over him anyday.'"
Gardner gets boomed nearly every time he takes the ball at the defence. |
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Can't win Gardner, he got slagged off for running sideways earlier on in his career and now he runs it in hard and straight he's still getting slagged off.
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King piemon wrote - What a pile of $hit
It was cack the whole team and i for one aint impressed
AJ wrote - Sean Long once again tore us to pieces. Its all well and good us singing Sean Long is a W@nker, but he was laughing back along by conducting the chant whilst ripping us to bits.
Robinson wrote - Saints - it depends on whether the side can get over their mental block. We're more than capable of beating 'Dads Army', but it appears that Wigan still shiit themselves at the mere sight of a red V.:27550.jpg |
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Meli is and if he played for Wigan or Wire we'd all be laughing at him. Does he have to cost us another grand final before people realise what a liability he is.. The arrow from Barrow looks low on confidence, Thankfully Super League is low on good wingers so they get away with it most weeks
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| Quote: St.Dave "Meli is poop and if he played for Wigan or Wire we'd all be laughing at him. Does he have to cost us another grand final before people realise what a liability he is.. The arrow from Barrow looks low on confidence, Thankfully Super League is low on good wingers so they get away with it most weeks'"
Meli did not cost us the Final on his own. |
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| Quote: Ski "Meli did not cost us the Final on his own.'" true, but he didn't exactly help either! |
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Phil Bentham scoured the video tape and despite conclusive evidence that Smith was a half yard offside, he allowed the try to stand.
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Saints are a big-game team with bags of big-game experience. They have won five Challenge Cups from six final appearances in the Super League era and have won five Grand Finals in that time too.
Add two World Club Championships to that and you have the roll-call of the best rugby league team this country has produced in the modern-era - and it's a phenomenal record.
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Ancient & Royal wrote....
"You are proud to be associated with that dis-organised band of mercenaries?
I am ashamed to be a Wigan fan hell yes, what have we got to be un-ashamed about? We are a joke, a laughing stock, we are NOTHING, why cant people understand!":11659.jpg |
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| Let's face facts. We have Wingers who are good enough to keep us at the top and they have been our 1st choice for 4 years now and in Ade's case a lot longer, however neither of them are anywhere near as good as Uncle Albert was. When Meli or Gardner goes we need an athletic speed merchant similar to Donald. Also I don't care where they come from, whether it be Australia, NZ or Outer Mongolia as long as they can catch, defend and give us back a long range threat which we haven't had since Albert and then Lyon left in all honesty.
If a half decent player with the slightest bit of pace gets through us we are found wanting and we can never ever get back to catch them. Look at Carvell's try vs Wire.  |
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| Quote: Big Dave Fairleigh "Let's face facts. We have Wingers who are good enough to keep us at the top and they have been our 1st choice for 4 years now and in Ade's case a lot longer, however neither of them are anywhere near as good as Uncle Albert was. When Meli or Gardner goes we need an athletic speed merchant similar to Donald. Also I don't care where they come from, whether it be Australia, NZ or Outer Mongolia as long as they can catch, defend and give us back a long range threat which we haven't had since Albert and then Lyon left in all honesty.
If a half decent player with the slightest bit of pace gets through us we are found wanting and we can never ever get back to catch them. Look at Carvell's try vs Wire. ![]()
We are absolutely crying out for a fast winger who is also strong on defence. Its one posiiton or should I say two positions where we cannot match other teams. IMHO Riley at Warrington (even though he is still young), Richards, Donald and Fox are all well in front of them in terms of ability. Compared to a few years back Saints were a threat from 100 metres out because of our speedy players. Unfortunately teams now know we are not the quickest and thats why Ridell on Friday kept kicking it dead knowing that we would struggle to go 75 metres to get a try.
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Meli's shirt has always been in jeopardy, but Gardner's form has also been pretty alarming this season. He's still a top-class finisher and his tackling and marking are fine. But the jitters of old have returned to haunt his kick receiving. And that's a major problem if we do get through to the GF to play Leeds because they will target both ruthlessly.
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Phil Bentham scoured the video tape and despite conclusive evidence that Smith was a half yard offside, he allowed the try to stand.
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Saints are a big-game team with bags of big-game experience. They have won five Challenge Cups from six final appearances in the Super League era and have won five Grand Finals in that time too.
Add two World Club Championships to that and you have the roll-call of the best rugby league team this country has produced in the modern-era - and it's a phenomenal record.
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Ancient & Royal wrote....
"You are proud to be associated with that dis-organised band of mercenaries?
I am ashamed to be a Wigan fan hell yes, what have we got to be un-ashamed about? We are a joke, a laughing stock, we are NOTHING, why cant people understand!":11659.jpg |
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| Quote: Murphys Magic "We are absolutely crying out for a fast winger who is also strong on defence. Its one posiiton or should I say two positions where we cannot match other teams. IMHO Riley at Warrington (even though he is still young), Richards, Donald and Fox are all well in front of them in terms of ability. Compared to a few years back Saints were a threat from 100 metres out because of our speedy players. Unfortunately teams now know we are not the quickest and thats why Ridell on Friday kept kicking it dead knowing that we would struggle to go 75 metres to get a try.'"
I really think Riley is worth a punt if we could get him. Certainly more speed than we have and something about the lad, always gives it all. Only problem is that he can make a clanger just like anyone and some have been quite bad, but no worse than Meli. Riley is still young. Meli has no improvement in him. |
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