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Personally I think Eastmond has more all-round potential to last in the Saints team than Smith.
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I have no issue with Smith coming back and fighting it out with Eastmond, Wheeler, Moore and Lomax for the number 7 shirt. The more quality players we have in the squad the better.
But I think we have not considered one thing. What if Smith <b> does not want to come back </b>
He has got a place in the Celtic Halves nailed down. Why would he want to come back to Saints to fight it out with a number of younger and potentially more talented players. If he comes back he has the odds against him why give up a safe job for that.
If he does come back he has my support but if I was him I would stay in Wales.
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| Quote: Noel Cleal "I have no issue with Smith coming back and fighting it out with Eastmond, Wheeler, Moore and Lomax for the number 7 shirt. The more quality players we have in the squad the better.
But I think we have not considered one thing. What if Smith <b> does not want to come back </b>
He has got a place in the Celtic Halves nailed down. Why would he want to come back to Saints to fight it out with a number of younger and potentially more talented players. If he comes back he has the odds against him why give up a safe job for that.
If he does come back he has my support but if I was him I would stay in Wales.'"
Wheeler = Stand off
Lomax = Fullback
Moore = Hooker
Eastmond is the only scrum half that I'm aware of who has got a chance of starting next season in the position. I wouldn't put it past us to sign an NRL player though. |
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Johnn Thurston would be a fine addition to our team, we could play Matty Smiff at prop then.
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "I hazard a guess we'll start to see a lot more, since Long's departure was confirmed. I reckon the coaches would've prefered to have been in this situation 12 months in the future, but needs must when the devil drives, and all that jazz.
I still think the Kevin Penny comment was uncalled for, though
Yeah, leave poor Kevin alone. 
I still think Scotty could be re-converted back to scrum half and do the job for us.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Wheeler
But all would be very good at 7. With people like Pryce, Wellens, Roby and Cunningham playing in the positions you mentioned these young players are ideal to fill the gap at 7. Eastmond is likely to start the season at 7 but I would not rule out one of the above filling in when needed.
This was not really my point. My point was why would Smith want to risk being a second choice at Saints (and spend most weeks in the second team) when he is guarenteed to start every week for Celtic.
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| Quote: Noel Cleal "But all would be very good at 7. With people like Pryce, Wellens, Roby and Cunningham playing in the positions you mentioned these young players are ideal to fill the gap at 7. Eastmond is likely to start the season at 7 but I would not rule out one of the above filling in when needed.
This was not really my point. My point was why would Smith want to risk being a second choice at Saints (and spend most weeks in the second team) when he is guarenteed to start every week for Celtic.'"
It's a big decision, i'd take the bigger contract at celtic, but you never know. |
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| Quote: Saint Simon "It's a big decision, i'd take the bigger contract at celtic, but you never know.'"
Who says Celtic even want him? He's hardly pulling up trees from the games I've seen him in. |
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Matty's been one of our best players. He transforms the team when he's in the starting 13, and has by far the best kicking game here.
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| Quote: ajhcrusader "Matty's been one of our best players. He transforms the team when he's in the starting 13, and has by far the best kicking game here.'"
Deep kicking - absolutely. His range and accuracy are as good any in the league. However, excluding Long, the short stuff isn't so clear cut. TBH, I don't think there's much between Smith and Wilkin. |
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Where have the rumours of eastmonds attitude come from???
I would hope a players attitude does have a baring on his future at saints to be honest.
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| Quote: saintcj "Where have the rumours of eastmonds attitude come from???
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| Quote: saintcj "Where have the rumours of eastmonds attitude come from???
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| Quote: ST_CONROY "Have we seen Eastmond play a full game at 7?
Have we seen Eastmond play a consistent run of games at 7?
Have we seen Eastmond play 7 against a top team?
Can Eastmond control a game?
Can he stay injury free?
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Look, i'm not denying Eastmond is a very good prospect but as of yet, we have seen nothing IMO to suggest he can definately be the future number seven. He is being touted based on what? The fact that he has pace and is talked up by everybody.'"
Smith can not answer any of those questions positively can he?
Eastmond has far greater potential and has an x-factor about him. He could win a game on his own with a searing break or touchline conversion. In some ways, he is like a young version of Long as a player. If he does half as well as Longy, I'll be happy |
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with any luck we'll have a better luck tonight, with kyle and matty playing apposing 7's, although the packs they are playing behind do differ somewhat.
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