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| Quote: Trav2005 "Gardner the turnstyle.
We got beat so what so did leeds no harm done, better to get beat this week than next against a really poor side.'"
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| Quote: Bill_Barlow "Idiot.'"
Aaawwwww did he say bad words against your team. |
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| gardner should be able to play without gidley there if he cant then we have a huge problem but gidley is a world class player and i look up to this lad me  |
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[color=#BF0040:11l5vpx1][i:11l5vpx1][b:11l5vpx1] I got a post card from T! She’s living on the streets of Seattle and she referred to herself as a ‘gutter punk’![/b:11l5vpx1][/i:11l5vpx1][/color:11l5vpx1]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_15471.jpg |
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| Quote: sophie "gardner should be able to play without gidley there if he cant then we have a huge problem but gidley is a world class player and i look up to this lad me ![]()
Ade Gardener is an okay winger. He only looks good because he's played outside two amazing centres in Lyon and Gidley. Last night showed how much improving needs to be done on his part.
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| Quote: Saint_Jen "Ade Gardener is an okay winger. He only looks good because he's played outside two amazing centres in Lyon and Gidley. Last night showed how much improving needs to be done on his part.'"
Definately, looked lost without gidley last night. It seems like he needs guidance at times. |
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| Quote: saintyick "Definately, looked lost without gidley last night. It seems like he needs guidance at times.'"
He needs something alright. |
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| Quote: Eurob0y "St Helens are a team full of average players, who are only made to look good by ermmm, the other average players around them. This is a FACT.
I mean lets be honest here, fans of random mid table teams like Wigan and Hull KR would know what average players look like, so their opinions should be counted as FACT'"
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I'm not Jesus Christ, I've come to accept that now.
[quote][b]XBrettKennyX wrote:[/b] Once more the anti SC brigade, purposely or otherwise fail to see the point.
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| Quote: Saint_Jen "Ade Gardener is an okay winger. He only looks good because he's played outside two amazing centres in Lyon and Gidley. Last night showed how much improving needs to be done on his part.'"
He cannot solely be blamed for many of the errors in defence down his side. The defence only operates when everyone does their job, Gardner himself hasn't missed a great deal of tackles. Last night actually having a centre may well have helped him rather than a walkabout Gilmour who seemed to be more interested in attacking up the middle.
At one point I wondered whether Gilmour had been shifted inside and Flannery put out wide, until Gilmour eventually got back into position. |
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| Quote: Saint_Jen "He needs something alright.'"
A fair point well put.  |
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "He cannot solely be blamed for many of the errors in defence down his side. The defence only operates when everyone does their job, Gardner himself hasn't missed a great deal of tackles. Last night actually having a centre may well have helped him rather than a walkabout Gilmour who seemed to be more interested in attacking up the middle.
At one point I wondered whether Gilmour had been shifted inside and Flannery put out wide, until Gilmour eventually got back into position.'"
I never said he should be.
But he's not a kid, by now he should have gained the experience needed to defend well, even when he doesnt have Gidley there. |
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I'm not Jesus Christ, I've come to accept that now.
[quote][b]XBrettKennyX wrote:[/b] Once more the anti SC brigade, purposely or otherwise fail to see the point.
Thick as pig swill.[/quote]:2595.jpg |
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| Quote: Saint_Jen "I never said he should be.
But he's not a kid, by now he should have gained the experience needed to defend well, even when he doesnt have Gidley there.'"
So, does he stick on his man and let the centre run past him as Gilmour has gone walkabout, or does he come inside and allow the winger to go past him as happened last night?
Yes he makes mistakes defensively, however he's the easy target for blame as he's the last man. The amount of times he was left 2 or 3 on one was poor last night. Is it his fault that he doesn't pick the right man every time? |
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| Quote: The Chair Maker "Remember Gilmour played that centre and normally he plays the other centre.
Wing play has always been a partnership with the centre, two backs not used to playing along side each other will miscommunicate with each other.'"
Gotta say i agree with this. |
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This season, Gardner has been a bit of a let down defensively, IMO. He seems to be making an awful lot of incorrect decisions that he wasn't making last season. He comes flying in, leaving his opposite wing man with no-one to beat. Needs sorting as soon as possible.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Look first at the fullback.
How many tackles does Wellens miss?
He defines average.'"
His flying dive nowhere near the Bradford Try was quality!... |
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They do have voices though, and if you have an overlap on one side, then you open your mouth and get players to slide across.
It's about reading the game.
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