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| Quote: saints35 bulls0 "Moore is contracted at Saints until the end of 2010 - so in theory we could loan him out for another 12 months afer this and still retain him. However, I think KC will do what is right for the club and step aside and let Moore come in alongside Roby.
The only other possible vision of the future I can see is Long retiring, KC staying and Roby playing at half back for 12 months. Dont think we can justify having all 4 of them on the books next year.'"
I don't reckon that would do our chances of silverware any good.
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| Quote: Dux "I don't reckon that would do our chances of silverware any good.'"
might be worth taking a step backwards for the long term good.....gives us 12 months to find a new scrum half (assuming that no-one from the reserves steps up), whilst retaingin Moore and keeping KC on for a bit longer.
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| Quote: saints35 bulls0 "might be worth taking a step backwards for the long term good.....gives us 12 months to find a new scrum half (assuming that no-one from the reserves steps up), whilst retaingin Moore and keeping KC on for a bit longer.'"
I'd have to agree, i think moore looks like the best young english hooker at the moment, i wouldn't want him to go to someone else longterm
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| Watching him Friday night and in the other games i've seen him this year he's been outstanding. I'd personally look at giving him a shot in the mid season England team vs France because we're crying out for a sarting hooker that can control a game and get the forwards moving.
As for his long term future at Saints it does look in the balance really. He will surely be looking at moving on if Cunningham doesn't retire and with the way he's playing i can't see that being for another season or 2.
A nice problem to have though i suppose.
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| there are worse problems to have. I would like to see kc lead us out in the new stadium, but as you say moore wont wait forever.
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www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher ... ynast.html
interview with Wayne Bennett which sums this dilemma up perfectly:
"You have a 20-year-old who is not as good as your 30-year-old pro but you know that he is going to be, he has got all the right attributes, so you take a short-term loss for a long-term gain."
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www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher ... ynast.html
interview with Wayne Bennett which sums this dilemma up perfectly:
"You have a 20-year-old who is not as good as your 30-year-old pro but you know that he is going to be, he has got all the right attributes, so you take a short-term loss for a long-term gain."
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| Quote: Wayne bennett "I studied other clubs and saw how they made mistakes; they had been great but held on to players for too long.'"
A mistake I think we are very easily in danger of making with the likes of Long and Cunningham.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "A mistake I think we are very easily in danger of making with the likes of Long and Cunningham.'"
I suspect if Eastmond hadnt got injured he would have played in a number of games this season.
We certainly need him fit and starting some of the lesser games. As he needs to get another 10 or 15 games under his belt this season, in order to have some experience to handle things when Longy retires.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "A mistake I think we are very easily in danger of making with the likes of Long and Cunningham.'"
at least one of those 2 has to be released at the end of this year.
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| They way both of them have played and with injuries taken into account then surely if one of them had to go its must be S Long?
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| Quote: saints35 bulls0 "www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher/2009/03/how_to_build_a_sporting_dynast.html
interview with Wayne Bennett which sums this dilemma up perfectly
Sentiment cant come into pro sport if you wanna stay at the top - we cant sustain Cunningham and Moore realistically and if Moore is looking like he will be top class for the next 10 years we need to ensure we keep him. The Top Wigan teams of the early 90's did it with Andy Greg and Ellery Hanley so we might have to do it with KC
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| Quote: Senechal "This is very interesting readin..
I presume that Moore has played more minutes?
I think comparing anyone to KC is harsh he is one of the all time greats, but if you look at Moores stats with the mind he is 20/21 year old hooker playing in a midtable superleague team, he looks very impressive.
I am of a mind now to follow wayne bennetts veiw and get KC as conditioner for next year, Moore to interchange with Robes
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| Quote: Saint Simon "I presume that Moore has played more minutes?'"
Why?
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "Why?'"
Because i am unaware of another hooker at hudds, not that i'm terribly bothered either way, just he is a 10 years (ish) younger so should be playing more minutes
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