Have to say well done to KR last night, however Ian Smith like has already been said is a T**t, so are half the posters from hull that are on here at the mo. Lets see who finishes higher eh lads?

Really?

Who have Leeds got that is so much kop? Didnt see them in either of the GF's last year.

Come on, enlighten us.

Watkins, Hall, Gibson, Smith, Allen to name but a few.

The harsh reality is that when Cunningham, Gidley and Long retire I think you'll find yourselves drifting behind Leeds.

Not that I think that's anyone's fault as such as St Helens is a small town with a relatively small catchment area where as Leeds is a city of some 700,000 people and as the coming seasons go by, club's success will depend on bring quality youngsters and the big city clubs such as Leeds, Hull FC & Hull KR have far bigger player pools to tap into and will therefore be more successful in the long term.

Being a Hull KR fan it makes no odds to me, just calling it as I see it and I see your squad running into problems (in terms of continuing to win silverware) in the coming seasons for the reasons I have stated above.

Smith was not [ithat[/i bad. He can only call what he sees, he doesn't make things up.

We were terrible for the most part. Smith gave a few contentious decisions to Hull KR, as happens every game. Hull KR did enough to win, and fully deserved to.

What cost us was not Smith, it was Longy runnung around like a headless chicken on the last tackle when he should have set-us up for a drop goal.


Congratulations to Hull, they fully deserved it.

On our second half performance with a LOT of tough calls against us including the disallowed try, I would say that we deserved a draw and should have had it.

WTF were we thinking in the penultimate set that we had. It was a cert drop goal from 10 yards out and we went for glory.

Bad decision not to take the draw and be content. Even the HKR fans must have thought WTF have they done in just throwing the game away.

A draw would have kept the unbeaten home run going and was the least we deserved.

It wasn't great rugby but we showed a lot of heart and the kids played very well indeed.

Disappointed as it could have still been 23 years or whatever since they beat us at home.

A referee can quite easily make things up, especially when it is not on TV. He can claim to have seen something that never happened, which Smith seemed to do a few times.

Sometimes it goes for you, sometimes it doesn't. If we'd have scored then everyone would have been saying it was a great decision, it just needed a good kick and we would have won the game. Theres no saying that the drop goal would have gone over, like i say, sometimes they go for you, other times they don't.

Which says Rovers were disciplined. End of.

10 yards out. Bang in front. Dead cert.

Bad decision.

So your actually suggesting that Smith is cheating? For what benefit?

If he made things up he wouldn't be a ref. Everybody would complain.

Face it, we got beat. The ref, doesn't make you knock on. The ref doesn't make you take stupid options. The ref doesn' t miss any tackles. The ref doesn't go for it when you should be taking one point.

A referee could cheat for several reasons, such as he dislikes a certain club, he dislikes a certain person involved with that club. It is easy for a referee to make things up, he can claim to see things that no-body else has.

It does my head in when people say things such as the referee doesn't knock on and the referee doesn't miss tackle. The fact is, if a referee constantly hammers a side with penalty's the other side will score eventually as the pressure will get to the other team and they will tire.

I agree, it must have all been Longs fault. Not Wheelers for taking it on his own, not Gardner's for dropping it earlier on when he could have scored, not Grahams for giving away the penalty at the end that lead to them kicking the penalty, not Gidley's for making two breaks and failing to look for his wing man. Just Longs because he was the only one that made an incorrect decision. All because hes better than Matty Smith.