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I disagree. I aint no Gardner fan either.

Fox and Raynor.

Fox, potentially

Raynor, no

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Raynor is great at running sideways, however he is weak at dealing with bombs.

His try scoring exploits are also poor.

Gardner is the more solid winger, but I'd say Raynor is the more exciting, strike player of the two.

Raynor isnt actually too bad under the bomb, his problem is he's not very tall so he tends to get out jumped. He has far more carries and tackle busts than Gardner, probably the highest in the league. As for tries, the major difference is the centres they play out side. Gardner has had the luxury of playing outside world class centres for the majority of his Sts career, a lot of his tries are walk ins. Its no coincidence that Raynors best try scoring seasons have been when Yeaman has been on form, unfortunately Yeaman hasn't played consistently well for 2 years.

That has certainly helped Gardner, but he is also a top class finisher in his own right. He scores tries from close range in situations where most wingers would end up getting knocked into the stand.

I agree about 2008 but Hull as a team were poor, partly due to injuries. Raynor didnt have a settled centre partner all year. Saying that he still had far more tackle busts and offloads than Gardner. I would read into the stats that Raynor tends to create more chances for himself and his team, Gardner is more of a finisher, just depends which type of player you like.

By catching the ball and falling over the line.

Gardner is highly underrated. Being in the right place at the right time, the ability to read your centre and finishing opportunities are all difficult skills to master. His right foot step is lethal near the line (he almost always manages to stand up his opposing winger), he makes very few mistakes (amazing considering he used to be extremely suspect under the high ball) and he's not afraid to go in where it hurts.