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Was Bryn as invisible as he was against Wire?
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Frodshams stats from game are as follows:-
63 metres gained in 9 carries
20 tackles made 3 missed tackles
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| Quote: The Chair Maker "Frodshams stats from game are as follows
What do you conclude from those?
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| Quote: Saddened! "What do you conclude from those?'" An average of 7 yards per carry (which is good, i'd say) and an 87% tackle completion rate (not so good). |
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "An average of 7 yards per carry (which is good, i'd say) and an 87% tackle completion rate (not so good).'"
BUT it is workable. IIRC, Maurie was working off a 3 misses a game rate in 2006. |
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| Quote: Ski "BUT it is workable. IIRC, Maurie was working off a 3 misses a game rate in 2006.'" Its not awful, and he still made 20 tackles. You can't really trust a one off stat, there may have been extenuating circumstances (ie a slip) for one or two of them. We'll look at that again in a few matches.
Can you tell me Bryn's comparable stats? He's going to be Frodsham's yardstick, after all. |
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "Its not awful, and he still made 20 tackles. You can't really trust a one off stat, there may have been extenuating circumstances (ie a slip) for one or two of them. We'll look at that again in a few matches.
Can you tell me Bryn's comparable stats? He's going to be Frodsham's yardstick, after all.'"
rlBryn makes 7 yards P/Crl
Slightly less tackles per game than Frodsham, but appears to work hard around the ruck.
Like many, if he has the chance, I think Frodsham will out grow Bryn this season. Maturity goes a long way for a player, take Jammer. |
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| Quote: Saddened! "What do you conclude from those?'"
Pretty decent for a 19 year old prop. He was making yards and doing the work defensively
Obviously room for improvement, but that can be expected.
As a comparison at the same age Graham was making 34 metres a game and around 6.1 metres per carry
Defensively Graham was making 14 tackles a game |
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| Quote: The Chair Maker "Pretty decent for a 19 year old prop. He was making yards and doing the work defensively
Obviously room for improvement, but that can be expected.
As a comparison at the same age Graham was making 34 metres a game and around 6.1 metres per carry
Defensively Graham was making 14 tackles a game'"
Graham is not a big meter maker per carry, but he is a big metre maker because he makes lot of carries.
I hope that makes sense. |
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| Quote: Evan Elpuss "Graham is not a big meter maker per carry, but he is a big metre maker because he makes lot of carries.
I hope that makes sense.'"
this is true. he averaged 7.07m per carry in 2008, and is on 5.6 this year so far.
Peacock averaged 7.8 last year, but made 93 less carries and 318 less metres.
some others in 2008:
Andy Lynch averaged 7.4m per carry
Adrian Morley averaged 7.9m
Fa'asavalu averaged 7.6m
Feka averaged 8.6m |
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| Quote: saints35 bulls0 "this is true. he averaged 7.07m per carry in 2008, and is on 5.6 this year so far.
Peacock averaged 7.8 last year, but made 93 less carries and 318 less metres.
some others in 2008
But in total Feka only makes 17.2 metres per match because after 2 runs he's buggered.
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SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
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| Quote: ~ No1 Saints Fan ~ "But in total Feka only makes 17.2 metres per match because after 2 runs he's buggered.'"
Another myth you like to perpetuate.
rlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season
If he's on the field as little as you say he must be the most effective forward in the game.
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[quote='Fishsta"']I've always thought of McGuire as a good player, and I wouldn't normally wish injury on any player, but there was a certain hint of poetic justice to that.
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Another classic:
[quote='Fishsta']You forgot to take off the "Saints Reduction Factor" when calculating the ban.
Standard suspension / Saints Reduction Factor = Actual ban for Saints player.
Therefore (2 / 3) = 0.666
0.666 < 1 therefore actual ban equals "less than 1 match".
Therefore ZERO.[/quote]
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Another myth you like to perpetuate.
rlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season
If he's on the field as little as you say he must be the most effective forward in the game.'"
Easehhhhhhhhhh,Easehhhhhhhh,Easehhhhhhhh. |
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Another myth you like to perpetuate.
rlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season
If he's on the field as little as you say he must be the most effective forward in the game.'"
Nobody with an ounce of grey matter would claim that Feka isn't a very useful and damaging prop.
However, it is an undeniable fact that he's carrying too much weight, lacking fitness because of it and would be a far better player if he addressed this (serious) issue. |
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