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| Quote: odemwingie "Wigan and Catalans can compete and maybe afew others, you cannot just look at recruitment, the players already at the club can improve, we have many players who still have not hit there full potential plus afew new signings and some youngsters coming through.
Fielden, Smith, Mathers, Goulding, Lulu, Tomkins S, Tomkins J, Hock, Lockers, Coley, O'Carroll, Prescott and Feka all still have massive room for improvement, where as the Saints and Leeds players do not have this same room for improvement as many of them are already class.'"
Wigan compete with Saints.
I understand Saints have lost a centre, Wigan have lost the only top player they had.
If Wigan finish above Saints next season, I will personally show my backside at Wigan townhall. |
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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: Stirlingshire Saint "Wigan compete with Saints.
I understand Saints have lost a centre, Wigan have lost the only top player they had.
If Wigan finish above Saints next season, I will personally show my backside at Wigan townhall.'"
I never said we would finish above saints, there is no chance of that happening, I dont think we will beat saints either, but we will be right behind them, I can see us doing well in games in which we would usually slip up.
Carmont, Richards, Hock (when he behaves himself), Fielden (back end of season) and Feka are all top players who pretty much all teams would love to have, we have also gained a top player in Riddell |
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| Quote: tad rhino "i'm not trolling, not sure about jonesey though!
it's a genuine question. one lad is a hull fan, i'm leeds obviously and the other guy is a cas fan and we were talking next season.
i'm just not sure saints will be in the top 2 but i was just interested in what the saints fans thought as they know the team better than me.
like the last guy said it doesn't look the biggest squad and a few injuries could really harm saints'" Tad I think Saints have more than enough to be in the top 2. |
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| Quote: odemwingie "I never said we would finish above saints, there is no chance of that happening, I dont think we will beat saints either, but we will be right behind them, I can see us doing well in games in which we would usually slip up.
Carmont, Richards, Hock (when he behaves himself), Fielden (back end of season) and Feka are all top players who pretty much all teams would love to have, we have also gained a top player in Riddell'"
Carmont is decent, as is Richards.
Hock is a good player when he wants to be.
Fielden is garbage, Feka is decent for a few minutes.
Riddell is another overrated, overhyped and overpaid Australian, fancy finding one of them at Wigan, eh ? |
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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: Stirlingshire Saint "Carmont is decent, as is Richards.
Hock is a good player when he wants to be.
Fielden is garbage, Feka is decent for a few minutes.
Riddell is another overrated, overhyped and overpaid Australian, fancy finding one of them at Wigan, eh ?'"
Carmont and Richards would easily get in the saints team
Feka is miles better than Mary
Fielden has been better than Peacock second half of the season.
Riddell is not being paid a high wage. |
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| Quote: odemwingie "Carmont and Richards would easily get in the saints team
Feka is miles better than Mary
Fielden has been better than Peacock second half of the season.
Riddell is not being paid a high wage.'"
This is what gets me with Wiganers.....all these top players apparently and theyre still crApp. |
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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: Stirlingshire Saint "This is what gets me with Wiganers.....all these top players apparently and theyre still crApp.'"
Thats cause we have some players who let the team down big time by underperforming.
We are so crap that the last 2 seasons we have finished just one place behind saints.  |
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| Quote: odemwingie "Thats cause we have some players who let the team down big time by underperforming.
We are so crap that the last 2 seasons we have finished just one place behind saints. ![]()
I thought Leeds finished second...
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[quote="getdownmonkeyman":1uzzx1o3]You need to move on from here. SS has replaced you, he gets this debating/conversing lark far, far better.[/quote:1uzzx1o3]:14099.jpg |
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| Quote: odemwingie "Thats cause we have some players who let the team down big time by underperforming.
We are so crap that the last 2 seasons we have finished just one place behind saints. ![]()
To be honest I havent noticed where Wigan have finished for the past 3 years. Im aware they're in the league somewhere, not in competition with the big sides and thats about it. It will take a miracle for Wigan to compete with the likes of Saints and Leeds.
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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: Ski "I thought Leeds finished second...'"
Hmmm nope im afraid Leeds have come first last 2 seasons then Saints losing against them twice in the grand final and the last 2 years we have lost in the FE putting us 3rd and you 2nd |
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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: Stirlingshire Saint "To be honest I havent noticed where Wigan have finished for the past 3 years. Im aware they're in the league somewhere, not in competition with the big sides and thats about it. It will take a miracle for Wigan to compete with the likes of Saints and Leeds.'"
If there is one club where miracles can happen its Wigan |
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| Quote: odemwingie "Hmmm nope im afraid Leeds have come first last 2 seasons then Saints losing against them twice in the grand final and the last 2 years we have lost in the FE putting us 3rd and you 2nd'"
Right, so are we talking about knock out competitions or league form? |
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[quote="getdownmonkeyman":1uzzx1o3]You need to move on from here. SS has replaced you, he gets this debating/conversing lark far, far better.[/quote:1uzzx1o3]:14099.jpg |
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| Quote: odemwingie "If there is one club where miracles can happen its Wigan'"
This is signature material. |
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| Quote: odemwingie "If there is one club where miracles can happen its Wigan'"
You mean like making £2m go into £1.65m? |
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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: Ski "You mean like making £2m go into £1.65m?'"
Hahahahaha yes we are the only club in the history of the game to do this.
Saints are not doing this now and never will do.
You are wise |
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